Larry says Mayweather beats Pernell Whiitaker and badly

[El Dominicano]

Agreed

That said you must also conceed that Whitaker has beaten better fighters. Floyd did'nt have an easy time of it with Castilo,Chavez,DLH or even Sosa.

Where as Whitaker dodged the bullet against Chavez and Nelson and you know both those guys bring it far more than Castillo and Jesus Chavez they are both better fighters for a start.

Been a long time since I seen the Sosa fight. Sadly, I haven't been able to find it for download so I can't speak on that. Another thing, some people make JLC sound like some garbage who gave Mayweather trouble. JLC had a really good chin, great workrate, power and knew how to cut off the ring...which is amazin considering Mayweather's footspeed at 135. Just remember, Mayweather's 1st fight at 135 was against JLC. May have been a go either way type of fight but Mayweather shut everyone up in the 2nd fight.



ANOTHER THING! I have a whole bunch of Pernell Whitaker fights in my hard drive and I'll inform you on alot of people who gave Whitaker problems

[Steak]

Whitaker had a better style to beat Mayweather than Duran did. Im a huge Duran fan, but the guy could not stand runners. He would win anyway...win almost round, in fact...but it took him a while to catch up with them, and he would always get frustrated by their lack of aggression. Im not just talking about the Leonard rematch either, Im talking about the runners he faced at 135.
Duran would likely beat Mayweather, but it wouldnt be one of his amazing performances. more than anything it would probebly be him slowly closing the distance and outfighting Mayweather down the stretch.

Whitaker on the other hand has all the tools to give Mayweather problems. fantastic quick jab, incredible reflexes, southpaw stance, effective body punching and the ability to fight in clinches.
you wouldnt see much fancy head movement in this fight...Whitaker only did that mostly when his opponents started throwing combinations to the body and head, and I dont see Mayweather doing more than 2 or 3 punch combos against a Pernell Whitaker style.
I can tell you one thing though...If Mayweather tried walking down Pernell with his hands up like he started doing to Zab around the 6th round, he would do terrible. he really wouldnt have a chance. Pernell ate that style up.

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I made that comment to annoy you, because ive spoken to you before and i already know what a fanboy you are.

I said i said what i said, because i believe Floyd loses to Whitaker.

LOL

So YOU write biased crap, because I a am biased. This is one of the best I have ever read.

[King Koopa]

Did Larry really say this? When??

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Agreed

That said you must also conceed that Whitaker has beaten better fighters. Floyd did'nt have an easy time of it with Castilo,Chavez,DLH or even Sosa.

Where as Whitaker dodged the bullet against Chavez and Nelson and you know both those guys bring it far more than Castillo and Jesus Chavez they are both better fighters for a start.

Mayweather didnt have an easy time against Chavez? What fight were you watching?

[Steak]

ANOTHER THING! I have a whole bunch of Pernell Whitaker fights in my hard drive and I'll inform you on alot of people who gave Whitaker problems

The only guy I remember who gave Pernell an unusual amount of trouble is probebly Jorge Paez. maybe Pendleton, but thats a stretch.

the first McGirt fight was fairly close, but McGirt was a pretty fantastic fighter at that time.
The JCC fight was semi close, but again, he was a pretty high level fighter at that point, being p4p #1 and all.

unless you want to count the Rivera and Hurtado fights, when he was on his way out.

[Dynamite Kid]

Been a long time since I seen the Sosa fight. Sadly, I haven't been able to find it for download so I can't speak on that. Another thing, some people make JLC sound like some garbage who gave Mayweather trouble. JLC had a really good chin, great workrate, power and knew how to cut off the ring...which is amazin considering Mayweather's footspeed at 135. Just remember, Mayweather's 1st fight at 135 was against JLC. May have been a go either way type of fight but Mayweather shut everyone up in the 2nd fight.



ANOTHER THING! I have a whole bunch of Pernell Whitaker fights in my hard drive and I'll inform you on alot of people who gave Whitaker problems

Shoot El Dominicano im gonna have me a Whitaker night tonight.

I think so too blackirish i mean Vilomar Fernandez didn't do too bad with latera movement untill Duran caught up with him and we saw what happened when Benitez,Leonard and Laing gave him movement. If you stood infront of Duran though he would rip you an new *******.

[!! Shawn]

My posts have observations on fights by both fighters, your posts are a good example of how to be biased and reporting facts in creative ways.

Consider your take on the Judah-Mayweather fight throughout this thread.

First it was 5 rounds that Mayweather could not do Judah, then you realized you were wrong (your hating memory 'surprisingly' increased the number of problematic rounds).

So later on you said Judah gave a 'boxing lesson' to Mayweather for 4 rounds.

Judah won 3 rounds 1,2,4 (or 1,3,4 can't remember which one) -all of them close rounds, just like the one Mayweather won- So what went wrong in the 'lesson' in tha round? And how is winning close rounds a 'boxing lesson'.
This is only one example of your hate blinding you, and why it is very easy to 'deal with your opinion', because you are so biased that it doesnt matter much.

You really miss the point of what Zab did to Floyd. He reaffirmed that Floyd has trouble with southpaws, and is incapable of making adjustments.

Everyone knows Zab Judah is a 4 round fights, he always has been a 4 round fighter. After 4 rounds he stops punching and falls apart, even if he is winning.

Zab Judah was beating Floyd for the first 4 rounds. Floyd couldn't do anything to alter the momentum of the fight until 4 round Zab fell apart on his own.

Its not Floyd's fault. Fighters that fight out of the Philly shell have always had trouble with southpaws. Its just a flaw in the style.

We saw it with James Toney against Michael Nunn.
We saw it with Andre Berto against Luis Collazo.
We saw it with Floyd Mayweather against Zab Judah.

Its just a flaw in the style, and its the reason Floyd Mayweather has no chance of beating Pernell Whitaker.

Can Floyd change his style and win against most southpaws? Of course he can, but he is not nearly as good fighting out of a conventional style, certainly not even close to good enough out of that style to trouble the best southpaw in the history of the sport.

[Burning Desire]

Been a long time since I seen the Sosa fight. Sadly, I haven't been able to find it for download so I can't speak on that. Another thing, some people make JLC sound like some garbage who gave Mayweather trouble. JLC had a really good chin, great workrate, power and knew how to cut off the ring...which is amazin considering Mayweather's footspeed at 135. Just remember, Mayweather's 1st fight at 135 was against JLC. May have been a, good either way type of fight but Mayweather shut everyone up in the 2nd fight.



ANOTHER THING! I have a whole bunch of Pernell Whitaker fights in my hard drive and I'll inform you on alot of people who gave Whitaker problems

I have Floyd Mayweather's career set i could try and upload the Victoriano Sosa fight, as for the fight itself i believe Victoriano Sosa was given too much credit. I didn't see him landing as much as the crowd or the commentators believed, and i gave him 3 rounds if i remember rightly.

As for the fighters who gave Pernell Whitaker some problems.

Freddie Pendleton = Competitive 8-4 win for Whitaker

Policarpo Diaz = Competitive early on but still 10-2 win for Whitaker

Azumah Nelson = Competitive in the later rounds 8-4 win for Whitaker

Jorge Paez = Competitive early on 8-3-1 win for Whitaker

Julio Cesar Vasquez = Competitive until later rounds 8-4 win for Whitaker

Gary Jacobs = 8-3-1 win for Whitaker Competitive early on

Wilfredo Rivera 1 and 2 = First fight draw, second fight 7-4-1 win for Whitaker both competitive fights

James McGirt 1 = 7-5/7-4-1 win for Whitaker

Diosbelys Hurtado = Hurtado winning by 1 point at the time of the stoppage

Thats my opinion.

[!! Shawn]

The only guy I remember who gave Pernell an unusual amount of trouble is probebly Jorge Paez. maybe Pendleton, but thats a stretch.

the first McGirt fight was fairly close, but McGirt was a pretty fantastic fighter at that time.
The JCC fight was semi close, but again, he was a pretty high level fighter at that point, being p4p #1 and all.

unless you want to count the Rivera and Hurtado fights, when he was on his way out.

Jorge Paez? Whitaker describes that as the easiest fight of his career.

The JCC fight semi close?