Larry says Mayweather beats Pernell Whiitaker and badly

[wmute]

Thats great, you missed the point again. Philly shell, plus southpaws don't mix.

Perhaps you should take up boxing and learn from some first hand experience.

I could explain to you why it doesn't work, but you wouldn't understand.

I am old enough to have taken up boxing and quit it too, I don't need you to explain me anything.

What YOU need to do is actually read my post, where you would have seen what I have to say on your simplistic equation, when applied to fighters like Toney and Mayweather (as backed up by facts, since the fights you mentioned ended up with the lefties getting hurt), who can do a lot more than fighting from the 'philly shell', which is actually not called the 'philly shell' unless you have taken up boxing in videogames...

[oldgringo]

I respect Buddy as a fighter too.

I dont know what happened to McGirt against Taylor though. Taylor was **** on form that night too much speed imo.

Mel had too much for him. Too much speed, too much stamina, too much heart and too many punches. Buddy landed some nice shots throughout, but every time he did something Mel an answer (or several answers in Taylors case).

Buddy probably could have made the final bell though. Strangely enough the ending of that fight was a bit like Hatton/Malignaggi.

[Dynamite Kid]

Mel had too much for him. Too much speed, too much stamina, too much heart and too many punches. Buddy landed some nice shots throughout, but every time he did something Mel an answer (or several answers in Taylors case).

Buddy probably could have made the final bell though. Strangely enough the ending of that fight was a bit like Hatton/Malignaggi.

Yeah i dont know why they pulled him out really. Okay it was one sided, but Buddy would of fought till the death.

[GTL]

Pea is a better fighter than Floyd..
I think Whitaker is the only fighter ever that out actually OUTBOX floyd..
Not just beat him, but outbox the cat..

[Dynamite Kid]

Pea is a better fighter than Floyd..
I think Whitaker is the only fighter ever that out actually OUTBOX floyd..
Not just beat him, but outbox the cat..

The truth

[!! Shawn]

I am old enough to have taken up boxing and quit it too, I don't need you to explain me anything.

What YOU need to do is actually read my post, where you would have seen what I have to say on your simplistic equation, when applied to fighters like Toney and Mayweather (as backed up by facts, since the fights you mentioned ended up with the lefties getting hurt), who can do a lot more than fighting from the 'philly shell', which is actually not called the 'philly shell' unless you have taken up boxing in videogames...

Actually, yes it is called the philly shell... Shoulder roll refers specifically to defense for right hands.

Lets talk about facts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gww67kv-XsM#t=3m11s

3min11sec exactly why the shoulder roll doesn't work against southpaws.

[!! Shawn]

Mel had too much for him. Too much speed, too much stamina, too much heart and too many punches. Buddy landed some nice shots throughout, but every time he did something Mel an answer (or several answers in Taylors case).

Buddy probably could have made the final bell though. Strangely enough the ending of that fight was a bit like Hatton/Malignaggi.

I think that performance had more to do with Buddy having an off night. He was completely gassed by the 2nd round.

[-EX-]

I don't think that's a fair assessment that it won't work on southpaws as a whole. Floyd did it right in front of Zab. It works best for Floyd when he's on the ropes. Not when standing right in front off opponents...especially Zab who has fast hands.

[!! Shawn]

I don't think that's a fair assessment that it won't work on southpaws as a whole. Floyd did it right in front of Zab. It works best for Floyd when he's on the ropes. Not when standing right in front off opponents...especially Zab who has fast hands.

It works anywhere in the ring. It works nowhere in the ring against southpaws and 3:11 that video is why.

Instinctively you will try and roll the right hand which against southpaws is a jab, and in the process, you create a nice little opening for a straight left hand to find you right on the chin.

You have to realize that the straight left come in from the left side, its not going to deflect off the back of your shoulder, its going to deflect right down the middle into your chin. There is nothing you can do about it other than not fighting out of philly shell against southpaws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gww67kv-XsM#t=3m11s

[larryx]

Actually, yes it is called the philly shell... Shoulder roll refers specifically to defense for right hands.

Lets talk about facts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gww67kv-XsM#t=3m11s

3min11sec exactly why the shoulder roll doesn't work against southpaws.

actually it did work he only got hit 1 time out of 6 punches thrown