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  • Originally posted by Sensational! View Post
    Since I wasn't there and the commission never investigated it, I can only speculate.

    My take is that Liston suffered a flash knockdown and decided that he wasn't going to get back up. Joe Walcott's mishandling of the situation almost forced Liston to continue fighting and hung him out to dry with dead air.

    Wanna talk about a dive? Emmanuel Augustus laid down against this Allan Vester guy.



    That sure looks like a dive.Augustos is knowned to be a warrior.Heck he even fired his trainer for stopping the Mayweather fight.

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    • Originally posted by Low Blow Armo View Post
      All the people that are on here talking about this not being a dive are trying really hard not to believe because they don't want to be disappointed. Not really giving good reasons why is wasn't.
      There is no smoking gun, no intent displayed that suggests it was a fixed fight. If Margarito threw the fight, he legitimately got his ass kicked.

      I don't think you will find a single journalist who will go on the record and say that they believe the fight to be fixed. Fans aren't held to the same standard of evidence that writers are so they can speculate all day. Writers can't say anything that can't be proven.

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      • Originally posted by Maxshayne View Post
        That sure looks like a dive.Augustos is knowned to be a warrior.Heck he even fired his trainer for stopping the Mayweather fight.
        I hear all sorts of things about Augustus being a flake but I don't know the guy personally so I can't say. But when you're broke and people are putting money in your face, it makes you think.

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        • Originally posted by Sensational! View Post
          I hear all sorts of things about Augustus being a flake but I don't know the guy personally so I can't say. But when you're broke and people are putting money in your face, it makes you think.
          Exactly the point... money always prevails

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          • Originally posted by Sensational! View Post
            There is no smoking gun, no intent displayed that suggests it was a fixed fight. If Margarito threw the fight, he legitimately got his ass kicked.

            I don't think you will find a single journalist who will go on the record and say that they believe the fight to be fixed. Fans aren't held to the same standard of evidence that writers are so they can speculate all day. Writers can't say anything that can't be proven.
            This has nothing to do with writers or journalist. I agree that a writer can't just come out and say something without proof. I don't know where you're going with this.

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            • Originally posted by Sensational! View Post
              Did who land a punch?
              Allan Vester
              IT DID NOT LOOK LIKE HE LAND ONE PUNCH
              Last edited by VERSION1 (V1); 01-30-2009, 01:04 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Low Blow Armo View Post
                This has nothing to do with writers or journalist. I agree that a writer can't just come out and say something without proof. I don't know where you're going with this.
                You were saying that there was irrefutable evidence that Margarito had thrown the fight, even though there was no evidence to support the claim.

                What I'm saying is that there will never be a boxing writer on any level who will say on the record that they believe that the fight was fixed. History is written by those who record it, the media, and it is safe to say that there will be nothing in history that remembers this as a fixed fight.

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                • Originally posted by VERSION1 (V1) View Post
                  Allan Vester
                  IT DID NOT LOOK LIKE HE LAND A BIG PUNCH
                  No, there was no knockout punch. It is such an unnatural think to fall down without being knocked down, it looks so planned and rehearsed.

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                  • Originally posted by VERSION1 (V1) View Post
                    Allan Vester
                    IT DID NOT LOOK LIKE HE LAND A BIG PUNCH
                    that was a "rhetorical" question

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                    • Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan View Post
                      Exactly the point... money always prevails
                      This is what I'm also trying to say here. But, some of these clowns here are having a tough time trying to accept or understand that. Money!!!! Its all about Money!!!!! Margarito threw the fight because he was going to make more money out of losing, and make money for other people who also knew about this ****. These morons here think that Margarito is about integrity and honesty and loyalty to fans and sport and he has no reason to dive and he wouldn't have taken so much punishment and he had legacy to worry about and he has cotto fight to protect and mexican fighters don't sell out like that and this only happens in third world countries and in movies and I love boxing and this wont happen to my beloved boxing and on and on. Let some one give you a couple a mil and let me see what you'll be willing to do.

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