I Think Margarito Took a Dive!

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  • Maxshayne
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    #351
    Originally posted by Sensational!
    Here's my take:

    Do I feel Margarito took a dive? Hell no. It's like when people tried to say that Archie Moore took a dive against Rocky Marciano. If he took a dive, why would he go out there and take a legitimate beating? Wouldn't he look for a soft spot on the canvas to rest his back instead?

    There are many things that could have affected Margarito's performance. Thirty minutes before the fight they made him rewrap his hands because of some su****ious substance that had been discovered. He was coming off a sizable layoff following his biggest win and may have grown complacent with contentment.

    Or maybe Shane Mosley was just that much better.

    But to say that Margarito threw the fight off of the evidence we have, you can't really formulate anything conclusive.

    In the post-fight interview Margarito made a statement saying that he wanted to be knocked out. I interpreted that, and I think I was right, as him saying that he wanted to go out on his shield like a warrior and be knocked out.

    Which brings it back to Archie Moore, who made the same statement in his post-fight interview.



    I agree.


    I think Liston took a dive in the second Ali fight though.Ali KO`ed him with one punch.Come on now,everybody and their Momma knows That Ali aint got no one punch KO power.

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    • keepthemhandsup
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      #352
      yeah taking three clean hooks to the face means you took a dive


      this forums have the biggest idoits man....

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      • Mr. Ryan
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        #353
        Originally posted by Maxshayne
        I agree.


        I think Liston took a dive in the second Ali fight though.Ali KO`ed him with one punch.Come on now,everybody and their Momma knows That Ali aint got no one punch KO power.
        Since I wasn't there and the commission never investigated it, I can only speculate.

        My take is that Liston suffered a flash knockdown and decided that he wasn't going to get back up. Joe Walcott's mishandling of the situation almost forced Liston to continue fighting and hung him out to dry with dead air.

        Wanna talk about a dive? Emmanuel Augustus laid down against this Allan Vester guy.

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        • Mr. Ryan
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          #354
          Originally posted by detluv
          yeah taking three clean hooks to the face means you took a dive


          this forums have the biggest idoits man....
          I think the word you were looking for there is "These".

          Also, I think the correct spelling is "idiots".

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          • VERSION1 (V1)
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            #355
            Originally posted by sensational!
            since i wasn't there and the commission never investigated it, i can only speculate.

            My take is that liston suffered a flash knockdown and decided that he wasn't going to get back up. Joe walcott's mishandling of the situation almost forced liston to continue fighting and hung him out to dry with dead air.

            Wanna talk about a dive? Emmanuel augustus laid down against this allan vester guy.

            did he land a punch

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            • boojee
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              #356
              Originally posted by Sensational!
              Since I wasn't there and the commission never investigated it, I can only speculate.

              My take is that Liston suffered a flash knockdown and decided that he wasn't going to get back up. Joe Walcott's mishandling of the situation almost forced Liston to continue fighting and hung him out to dry with dead air.

              Wanna talk about a dive? Emmanuel Augustus laid down against this Allan Vester guy.

              lol, now that's what you call a dive. back stroke baby

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              • Mr. Ryan
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                #357
                Originally posted by VERSION1 (V1)
                did he land a punch
                Did who land a punch?

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                • Maxshayne
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                  #358
                  I think the Spinks /Judah fight was a fix.The first punch that pillow fisted Spinks
                  landed On Judah should`ve have had Judah Snoring on the ropes. Even if spinks grazed him.
                  Last edited by Maxshayne; 01-30-2009, 12:37 PM.

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                  • Low Blow Armo
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                    #359
                    All the people that are on here talking about this not being a dive are trying really hard not to believe because they don't want to be disappointed. Not really giving good reasons why is wasn't.

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                    • HappyBoxingFan
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                      #360
                      Originally posted by Low Blow Armo
                      All the people that are on here talking about this not being a dive are trying really hard not to believe because they don't want to be disappointed. Not really giving good reasons why is wasn't.
                      Agreed... people act like belittling it will make it not true

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