Floyd gaining number 1 pound for pound status was bad for boxing.

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  • aether
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    #11
    Originally posted by a-raines21
    so you can honestly say that fighting cotto, he wouldnt have been the favorite? margarito? based on what you said, he would've had to fight hopkins to achieve greatness

    seriously dude... you sound mentally disabled
    why don't you get floyd's **** out of your mouth for one moment and be objective here. im not denying floyd has great skills and could possibly be the greatest ever. but he could have done more in the welterweight division. even you with your undying love for floyd cannot deny that.

    he has been challenged ONCE in his career by castillo. the rest are gimmes. then he's gonna run his mouth that he's greater than SRR. heck, in my opinion PBF can't carry Hopkins, Mosley, or Pac's nut sack.. suck it *****

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      #12
      Originally posted by Tricky Lopez
      Floyd undoubtedly deserved his pound for pound status, his ability is unquestionable. However Floyd used his position to turn down other fighters.

      My argument is this, if Floyd was not number 1 pound for pound the public simply would not have accepted his unwillingnesss to fight people such as Cotto or Margarito. His reign at the top of the pound for pound list lasted approximately 220 weeks (I may stand corrected here), in this time he only faced one serious welterweight, Zab Judah.

      Instead he was allowed to choose fights such as De La Hoya and Hatton when they were clearly no match for him. I still think Floyd would have beaten anyone he faced but all of these opinions remain unproven.

      This "best fighter in the world syndrome" is bad for boxing, even the gracious and fight anybody attitude of Manny Pacquiao has been affected by this syndrome, as we saw with the Hatton saga recently.

      The pound for pound list certainly has been the catalyst in the creation of many great fights but in my eyes it has cost us some great fights also.
      who cares if anyone fight MARGIE that skilless loser.

      floyd should have fought cotto tho

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      • a-raines21
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        #13
        Originally posted by aether
        why don't you get floyd's **** out of your mouth for one moment and be objective here. im not denying floyd has great skills and could possibly be the greatest ever. but he could have done more in the welterweight division. even you with your undying love for floyd cannot deny that.

        he has been challenged ONCE in his career by castillo. the rest are gimmes. then he's gonna run his mouth that he's greater than SRR. heck, in my opinion PBF can't carry Hopkins, Mosley, or Pac's nut sack.. suck it *****
        see.... okay dude come outta the closet....... his **** is in my mouth because you sound like a fickin ******? come on dude have an ounce of class........

        None of your favorite fighters are great based on your strict ass standard....... none of them!

        oh and i didn't ask for you fu.cking opinion.... it obviously is a bias one

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          #14
          Originally posted by a-raines21
          see.... okay dude come outta the closet....... his **** is in my mouth because you sound like a fickin ******? come on dude have an ounce of class........

          None of your favorite fighters are great....... none of them!
          yes. and floyd is the greatest ever. come on dude.. pac is not a great fighter? neither is mosley or hopkins? yeah...

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            #15
            P4P list is bad for Boxing period!

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            • a-raines21
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              #16
              Originally posted by aether
              yes. and floyd is the greatest ever. come on dude..
              I didnt say that didckhead


              Originally posted by aether
              pac is not a great fighter? neither is mosley or hopkins? yeah...
              i didnt say floyd was the greatst ever ****face!.

              um based on you standards... no!

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                #17
                Originally posted by a-raines21
                i didnt say floyd was the greatst ever ****face!.

                um based on you standards... no!
                floyd could have done more at welter. that's all im saying.

                he retired too early. ducked comp. and quite frankly, is viewed as a boring fighter.

                i don't actually hate floyd whether you believe it or not. but some of his nut huggers are clearly delusional if they think his retirement is not premature and he didn't duck comp...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by a-raines21
                  i didnt say floyd was the greatst ever ****face!.

                  um based on you standards... no!
                  all he has to do was fight at welter a bit more... if he comes out of retirement and beats pac, mosley, marg, or cotto, im gonna give him full credit. so stop hugging his nuts you big baby

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by a-raines21
                    whats bad for boxing is this right here.

                    ppl compltely over-look the fact that floyd started out as a featherweight.

                    Then, as he moved up, he owned all the divisions he was in.

                    Its like saying that roy jones didnt fight wlad klitchko in 2003......

                    its like ppl want so bad to discredit floyd mayweather, that his past doesnt matter, even though every fght he has, ppl say that he will lose because of some factor. the only thing that blind ppl see is the things he didnt do, over looking the things he actually did do
                    1. he was never a featherweight. he started off as a lightweight. he got his first belt at super featherweight but most of his fights were above 130 and never once fought at 126.

                    2. he did not own all the divisions he was in. he got a belt in a 5 divisions but he certainly did not own them. the only division you can say he owned was 130 by beating corrales or even 135 by beating castillo but even at 130 and 135 he did not unify the division nor clean it out.

                    i'm sorry but freitas and casamayor were up in the rankings with him at 130 for several years and he did not fight them.

                    he only fought 1 legitimate very good lightweight in castillo.

                    he did not fight the best junior welterweight when he was at 140 in kostya tszyu.

                    he might have gotten the lineal belt at 147 from carlos baldomir but he did not fight what people considered the top 2 welterweights during his reign there. unless you want to count zab judah who lost his previous fight before fighting floyd.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by aether
                      floyd could have done more at welter. that's all im saying.

                      he retired too early. ducked comp. and quite frankly, is viewed as a boring fighter.

                      i don't actually hate floyd whether you believe it or not. but some of his nut huggers are clearly delusional if they think his retirement is not premature and he didn't duck comp...
                      people concentrate on 147 too much.

                      that's not even his natural division. floyd too me is a natural lightweight and junior welterweight. he shouldn't really be fighting top welters.....though since he decided to stay at 147 and keep the belts he should have.

                      people should question his resume at 130-140 as well.

                      people take it as a given that he cleaned out 130 and 135 and he did NOT.

                      he was the best in those divisions but he didn't clean it out or dominate them as people try to make it seem like.
                      Last edited by Left Hook Tua; 01-28-2009, 09:57 AM.

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