Floyd gaining number 1 pound for pound status was bad for boxing.

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  • aether
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    #21
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    people concentrate on 147 too much.

    that's not even his natural division. floyd too me is a natural lightweight and junior welterweight. he shouldn't really be fighting top welters.....though since he decided to stay at 147 and keep the belts he should have.

    people should question his resume at 130-140 as well.

    people take it as a given that he cleaned out 130 and 135 and he did NOT.

    he was the best in those divisions but he didn't clean it out or dominate is as people try to make it seem like.
    that's what i meant by him ducking comp.
    he should have fought tzyu, casmayor, etc in their respective weight class.

    what im saying is what floyd should have done at the end of career. which is to stay at welter and fight those guys

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      #22
      Originally posted by aether
      that's what i meant by him ducking comp.
      he should have fought tzyu, casmayor, etc in their respective weight class.

      what im saying is what floyd should have done at the end of career. which is to stay at welter and fight those guys
      i agree with you.

      if he did not want to fight the top guys at 147 he should have just said , "i'm not really a welterweight and move back down."

      no one said anything when he went to grab a 154 belt to make millions against delahoya and move back down from 154.

      we know floyd is not really a 154 fighter.

      look at pac. he fights one fight at 147 then he says he's moving back down. no one gives him **** because he's not really a welterweight.

      now if pac holds on to a 147 belt for a couple of years and stays fighting at 147 then he would get the same **** because it's like he's holding the division hostage.

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      • M.I Truth ?
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        #23
        Originally posted by Tricky Lopez
        Floyd undoubtedly deserved his pound for pound status, his ability is unquestionable. However Floyd used his position to turn down other fighters.

        My argument is this, if Floyd was not number 1 pound for pound the public simply would not have accepted his unwillingnesss to fight people such as Cotto or Margarito. His reign at the top of the pound for pound list lasted approximately 220 weeks (I may stand corrected here), in this time he only faced one serious welterweight, Zab Judah.

        Instead he was allowed to choose fights such as De La Hoya and Hatton when they were clearly no match for him. I still think Floyd would have beaten anyone he faced but all of these opinions remain unproven.

        This "best fighter in the world syndrome" is bad for boxing, even the gracious and fight anybody attitude of Manny Pacquiao has been affected by this syndrome, as we saw with the Hatton saga recently.

        The pound for pound list certainly has been the catalyst in the creation of many great fights but in my eyes it has cost us some great fights also.
        I understand that people wanted to see Floyd fight more at Weleter and I did too. The thing is the fight that was supposed to happen there was Cotto. Margarito made a matchup possible with Floyd when he beat Cotto in July. Prior to that had Floyd fought him and won people would discredit the fight saying Tony was not very well known and over hyped. The July fight gave Tony real credibility. So in actuallity its the Cotto fight that should have happened. It should have happened after Hatton if it was going to happen. But the talks about Margarito are a bit off since since Tony just hit his peak in popularity in July.

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          #24
          Originally posted by a-raines21
          see.... okay dude come outta the closet....... his **** is in my mouth because you sound like a fickin ******? come on dude have an ounce of class........

          None of your favorite fighters are great based on your strict ass standard....... none of them!

          oh and i didn't ask for you fu.cking opinion.... it obviously is a bias one

          What????????? Nyahahahahaha

          you're now the gayest poster in this site....

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            #25
            Originally posted by a-raines21
            see.... okay dude come outta the closet....... his **** is in my mouth because you sound like a fickin ******? come on dude have an ounce of class........

            None of your favorite fighters are great based on your strict ass standard....... none of them!

            oh and i didn't ask for you fu.cking opinion.... it obviously is a bias one
            just recently...

            pac ko'ed dlh. huge underdog. fight called a farce

            mosley ko'd marg. many people expecting shane to be outworked. and marg is almost perceived as invincible...

            hopkins ud pavlik. one sided bout. people think hopkins maybe too old .proved the critics wrong

            my standards aren't that strict..
            Last edited by aether; 01-28-2009, 10:11 AM. Reason: it was less than 10 months...

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            • Mickey Gomez
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              #26
              This thread has been trolljacked.

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              • aether
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                #27
                Originally posted by Tricky Lopez
                This thread has been trolljacked.
                what was the topic again?

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                • Left Hook Tua
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by aether
                  what was the topic again?
                  whether we want to see pac-cotto or pac-shane after he ktfo hatton.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mitruth
                    I understand that people wanted to see Floyd fight more at Weleter and I did too. The thing is the fight that was supposed to happen there was Cotto. Margarito made a matchup possible with Floyd when he beat Cotto in July. Prior to that had Floyd fought him and won people would discredit the fight saying Tony was not very well known and over hyped. The July fight gave Tony real credibility. So in actuallity its the Cotto fight that should have happened. It should have happened after Hatton if it was going to happen. But the talks about Margarito are a bit off since since Tony just hit his peak in popularity in July.
                    Really, what does that have to do with anything?

                    The majority of Floyds opponents are nobodies.

                    You guys need to get another angle to weasel your way out of a fight with a dangerous fighter.

                    Sosa was not very well known.
                    Ndou was not very well known.
                    Brusseles was not very well known.
                    Baldomir was not very well known.
                    Jukko was not very well known.

                    Shall I continue?

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                    • larryx
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                      #30
                      man what is ya'lls issue with floyd...then you have the nerve to act like he had to fight margo who has 0 skill..damn give it a rest the man paid his dues

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