Margarito, Illegal Wraps Caught Before Mosley Loss

[FLY TY]

Even though I think it is strange and an absolute disgrace that Margarito and his camp tried to do it in the first place... it doesn't mean he necessarily did the same against Cotto... I mean yeah there is a possibility and I am not ruling it out, but there is also no proof.

There is no proof that Marg illegally wrapped his hands for any other fight aside from this one.

Id be willing to bet that he did do that before, but unless somebody confesses, we will never know.

that's what i'm saying.......

I agree. It seems odd that so many people genuinely think that the result of Cotto-Margarito is somehow going to be changed (e.g. no contest). It's pretty safe to say that the statute of limitation has expired if any cheating did, in fact, occur in that fight. Let's just see the rematch. Even before the hand-wrapping revelation, I always felt that Cotto was smart and versatile enough to reverse the outcome of the first fight.

the only problem is the way cotto fights marg......like shane did, you gotta 1) go to the body 2) tie up on the inside

i've never heard a boxer say he couldn't get to the other guys body....also cotto stated he doesn't hold/tie up.......he's gonna have to.

You are probably right but what kind of beard does it take to withstand a plaster cast? Since Nazeem probably studied Marg he must have realized there was something su****ious with his opponents looking so beat up when he isn't really a big puncher. Its very noticeable that Magarito is not fast nor does it look like he throws heavy punches. I imagine taking the cast out of his glove sure took the steam out of his blows. If you look at the punches marg landed on Shane they didn't seem to be very effective. Never trust a guy with a mullet.

margarito is heavy handed, its just shane never gave him a stationary target....no backing up, laying on the ropes. if you notice, whenever shane backed up, he either tied margarito up, or got off before margarito did, and met him back in the middle of the ring.

Mosley did a 180 from his fight against Mayorga. He looked too good to be true if you compare him to how he looked against Mayorga. Could have been that he did not prepare physically and mentally against a Mayorga we all know simply did not pose a threat against Mosley or it could have been something else.

Wouldn't it be some **** if in a few weeks Mosley would test positive for some substance?

Simply putting it Mosley looked like the Mosley of 10 years ago. Totally impressive.

P.S. I used to be a Marg fan until last night. You cannot argue the fact that he was actually caught red-handed trying to cheat. Whereas Mosley still is not out of the woods (legally that is).

mosley admitted to using that ****, unknowingly, for 1 fight, almost nine years ago.....this is not the same thing here.

its not that mosley did a 180, a couple of things changed....

1) he was on a year layoff before he fought mayorga, not fighting for that long, you're not gonna be at your best, i don't care who you are.

2) styles make fights, mayorga has an awkward style, margarito was pretty much ripe for mosley- stationary, slower

3) better trainer. trainers can't necessarily "change" fighters, what they do is bring out positives, try to minimize negative attributes, study the opponent and come up w/ a game plan to follow. the right trainer can make a difference.

4) shane aint on nothing, he would have to be ****** to even try something, considering what he's dealing with already.

If he had the cast in his gloves it had to take much more out of Cotto. How Smart can he be when the other guy has bricks for fist? Margarito did land punches on Mosley but they had very little effect, kind of strange don't you think?

margarito landed punches on mosley, but they weren't damaging, b/c of the WAY mosley fought margarito......he wasn't going straight back, giving margarito a stationary target....he didn't lay on the ropes and let margarito tee off. shane tied up when he had too, he didn't take unneccessary punishment when he shouldn't have.

the reason margarito's punches had greater effect on cotto, is that he hit cotto w/ cleaner shots, and a lot more of em. i think i saw margarito catch mosley w/ maybe 1 or 2 nice shots the entire fight, but margarito doesn't do it w/ 1 or 2 shots....he let's his **** build up over the course of the fight. cotto got caught w/ some decent **** every round, and it built up. around round 6, you could kinda feel margarito building momentum.

this fight, i never got that feeling margarito was doing anything effective. in fact, i thought last night margarito actually won round 7, but i watched the replay of the fight today, and i actually think shane won that round too.

not saying he cheated or didn't cheat against cotto......but i'm saying the way shane fought and the way cotto fought margarito were like night and day, and cotto would have to make changes in the rematch to be successful, cuz if he fights the same way, he'll lose again....plaster or no plaster.

plus, you gotta also realize- 1) mosley has better endurance AND a better chin than cotto 2)mosley hits harder than cotto too. mosley's power is very deceptive. anybody that has 39 KOs in 46 wins, has some type of punching power.

[KingTito]

That's just disgraceful to cheat like that. If it gets confirmed that he's been doing that, then he should be severly punished.

[Weebler I]

I'll wait until its proven.

[Scoooter]

If we're using this incident of illegal wraps to question every big win in Margarito's career (not unreasonable), then we have to do the same for Mosley. I like both fighters, and I'm sure Sugar Shane's a great guy, but the fact is, they've both been busted for cheating once (assuming the info about Marg's wraps isn't resolved some other way). You can't grant one the benefit of the doubt and not the other.

[albizu]

No wonder he destroyed Cotto in his las bout. Now that he lost to what is next. A Cotto vs. Margarito sounds like good rematch.

[mellow_mood]

so now we have to ask......WTF was Cotto's peeps lookin' at when he fought him ........Good work ****m

im glad u bring this point!!

u are abosolutly right~!!

not saying that margo used the illegal wrappin with cotto... but

this is the best example of why... COTTO'S CORNER NEED A CHANGE!!! for me evangelista is not an elite trainer just a good one...

shane looked just phenomenal..with that corner change and had a really good plan!! ****m is just a great trainer with great boxing knowlege.. it was a perfect plan.. as perfect as hopkins plan against kelly....

he remove his dad from his corner... and @ the end his father was celebrating with him in the ring!!! this is business..

evangelista cotto ccant do more for cottos career... cotto sould listen up and put some one better on his corner.. he might be able to see improvements in his game... just like the ones we saw on mosley last night!

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

Cottos team shouldve noticed it!!! Lmao marga****o sucks!!!

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

If we're using this incident of illegal wraps to question every big win in Margarito's career (not unreasonable), then we have to do the same for Mosley. I like both fighters, and I'm sure Sugar Shane's a great guy, but the fact is, they've both been busted for cheating once (assuming the info about Marg's wraps isn't resolved some other way). You can't grant one the benefit of the doubt and not the other.

this is one of the smartest things ive seen on this board this morning!!!
But u still cant take away the fact that shane fought a great fight!!!

[aztecboxer]

if your a regular boxing fan then you know that illegally wraping your hands is the most common thing in boxing. dont make this a big deal because trinidad did it for his whole career and mosley did it and many other good fighters.

[Del Coqui]

if your a regular boxing fan then you know that illegally wraping your hands is the most common thing in boxing. dont make this a big deal because trinidad did it for his whole career and mosley did it and many other good fighters.

illegal hand wrap and plaster in wraps are very different offenses, get it right.