Sugar Ray Robinson vs Joe Calzaghe

[Lubutheimmortal]

I often wonder why so many people are so bothered by Calzaghe, to the extent they genuinely hate the guy. Is it because he's not American, or because he's beaten every great American hope put in front of him? Is it because he left the self-proclaimed "Executioner" crawling around on his hands and knees after imaginary low blows, trying to wangle a points deduction like some second rate club fighter?

Unlike many of his peers, he doesn't use women as punchbags. He doesn't claim to be greater than the likes of Ali and Robinson. He doesn't give X-rated press conferences, take steroids, get into scraps with the police, or have a massive entourage full of leeches and hangers-on. Just a solid boxer who's made a lot of money and had a fine career.

I think most people have issues with his fans on here, but I'm not entirely sure I don't dislike Joe, in fact I like his fights for the most part.

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I often wonder why so many people are so bothered by Calzaghe, to the extent they genuinely hate the guy. Is it because he's not American, or because he's beaten every great American hope put in front of him? Is it because he left the self-proclaimed "Executioner" crawling around on his hands and knees after imaginary low blows, trying to wangle a points deduction like some second rate club fighter?

Unlike many of his peers, he doesn't use women as punchbags. He doesn't claim to be greater than the likes of Ali and Robinson. He doesn't give X-rated press conferences, take steroids, get into scraps with the police, or have a massive entourage full of leeches and hangers-on. Just a solid boxer who's made a lot of money and had a fine career.

You think Hopkins and Jones are great American hopes? More like great American history....

[FaustoGeraci]

Hahaha @ some picking Joe Calzaghe over the greatest boxer of all time. What a joke.

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Hahaha @ some picking Joe Calzaghe over the greatest boxer of all time. What a joke.

Joe "The slap douche" Calzaghe...

[Technical_Skill]

Id Pic Joe Calsage cos he is realy good at boxing and he has fight legneds like Tocker Pudwill and Kabery Salem, Ray Robinson is good fightr but calsage is just too quick, an he beat Kessler.

[deliveryman]

I hate how Sugar Ray Robinson has this untouchable stigma.

Yes, compared to the era he fought in, he is without a doubt the greatest boxer that has ever lived. However, advances in technology and breakthroughs in biochemistry has sparked the evolution of the athlete to accelerate at a rapid pace.

Athletes today are faster, stronger, more agile and more coordinated than the athlete of the 1950's. Consider this: The fastest woman today is able to run faster than the fastest man could in 1950.

Sugar Ray Robinson would have an awful time dealing with the speed, power and sheer athletecism with some of the fighters today. If Jake "Womanizing Booze Hound, Chain Smoker" LaMatta could manage to beat Robinson (albeit just once), A prime Joe Calzaghe would give Robinson fits. A Prime Roy Jones probably blows Robinson out of the water.

Much less was discovered and known about boxing over half a century ago. When you deduce that we simply have the past to learn from, then it's only logical that more has been discovered and learned about boxing today.

Robinson is great because he was so ahead of his time. Robinson has contributed more to modern boxing than any other fighter in history. It's just that fighters today have had a chance to absorb it, scrutinize it, test it, refine it and improve it. Which is why I always measure fighters against their own eras when gauging their greatness.

He was not unbeatable, not even in his own era. He sure as hell wouldn't be unbeatable in today's era.

[Shadow boxer 3]

calzaghe would get KNOCK THE F.UCK out. If a 43 year and a 40 year old droped Calzaghe, imagine what a prime Sugar Ray Robinson would do to him

[catalinul]

calzaghe would get KNOCK THE F.UCK out. If a 43 year and a 40 year old droped Calzaghe, imagine what a prime Sugar Ray Robinson would do to him

A prime Sugar Ray was a WW.A lot smaller than Joe,fight would never happen.

[Vladimir303]

Id Pic Joe Calsage cos he is realy good at boxing and he has fight legneds like Tocker Pudwill and Kabery Salem, Ray Robinson is good fightr but calsage is just too quick, an he beat Kessler.

ROFL.


You pretty much nailed the tone of some of these comments. One guy in here even acted like a boxing expert saying that Robinson wasn't a welterweight and that he fought at jr.middleweight.

He said it like he meant it too.

[Vladimir303]

ROFL.


You pretty much nailed the tone of some of these comments. One guy in here even acted like a boxing expert saying that Robinson wasn't a welterweight and that he fought at jr.middleweight.

He said it like he meant it too.

Here it is:

Originally Posted by nathan_nall
Robinson never faught below Jr. Middleweight... and I only saw one fight at 154... the rest were Middleweight and Super Middleweight