Sugar Ray Robinson vs Joe Calzaghe

[Abstraction]

I don't know, SSR is considered one of the p4p boxers, and had an illustrious career...

But Joe beat Lacy..

Tough to call..

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In all seriousness, in my opinion, SRR, Early stoppage

[Lubutheimmortal]

I hate how Sugar Ray Robinson has this untouchable stigma.

Yes, compared to the era he fought in, he is without a doubt the greatest boxer that has ever lived. However, advances in technology and breakthroughs in biochemistry has sparked the evolution of the athlete to accelerate at a rapid pace.

Athletes today are faster, stronger, more agile and more coordinated than the athlete of the 1950's. Consider this: The fastest woman today is able to run faster than the fastest man could in 1950.

Sugar Ray Robinson would have an awful time dealing with the speed, power and sheer athletecism with some of the fighters today. If Jake "Womanizing Booze Hound, Chain Smoker" LaMatta could manage to beat Robinson (albeit just once), A prime Joe Calzaghe would give Robinson fits. A Prime Roy Jones probably blows Robinson out of the water.

Much less was discovered and known about boxing over half a century ago. When you deduce that we simply have the past to learn from, then it's only logical that more has been discovered and learned about boxing today.

Robinson is great because he was so ahead of his time. Robinson has contributed more to modern boxing than any other fighter in history. It's just that fighters today have had a chance to absorb it, scrutinize it, test it, refine it and improve it. Which is why I always measure fighters against their own eras when gauging their greatness.

He was not unbeatable, not even in his own era. He sure as hell wouldn't be unbeatable in today's era.

Your exactly right however just saying the newer the better really takes the fun out of it all am I right? For me to compare fighters from different eras you have to take away all of that and put them on equal grounds. Consider if Robinson was put into todays era with the same training, new found knowledge, ect ect . Thats is how I take these type of fights into consideration. Because just saying Tyson would beat Ali because he was in a later generation doesn't make it entirely so, don't you agree? Either way I am not trying to argue or disagree(as I said at first I was in agreement with you statement), just trying to tell you how I view these things because it makes it more fun and challenging to think about.

[Squabbles94806]

Is this even a question? SRR would boss up on Calzaghe.

First of all, back in the late 40's and the late 50's fighters were a little bit more tough than what they are today. So if they fought, would it be in this era or SRR's era.

This era, i still would give it to Sugar Ray. If it was in the 50's, Calzaghe wouldn't have a chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuPNG0jV9DY

See for yourself....

[billionaire]

"Moyer had Robinson in trouble in the third, fifth, ninth, and tenth rounds..He set a fast pace from the start, shook off the best punches Robinson was able to toss at him, and belabored the one-time great with a steady two-handed bombardment to the head and body." (The Ring, April 1962, page 42)

sounds like something calzaghe would do
styles make fights....of course this does not mean he would get thru robinsons resume undefeated

[KJB]

"Moyer had Robinson in trouble in the third, fifth, ninth, and tenth rounds..He set a fast pace from the start, shook off the best punches Robinson was able to toss at him, and belabored the one-time great with a steady two-handed bombardment to the head and body." (The Ring, April 1962, page 42)

sounds like something calzaghe would do
styles make fights....of course this does not mean he would get thru robinsons resume undefeated

Yeah, cause Robinson was really close to his prime at that point
Robinson was 41 years old and had 160+ fights.

[billionaire]

Yeah, cause Robinson was really close to his prime at that point
Robinson was 41 years old and had 160+ fights.

thats prime pickings for joe the legend killer.....

[larryx]

thats prime pickings for joe the legend killer.....

what he said..thats exactly when joe wouldve wanted him

[FaustoGeraci]

what he said..thats exactly when joe wouldve wanted him

Come on. Are you that biased??





Calzaghe would wait until he was 43.

[daggum]

Come on. Are you that biased??





Calzaghe would wait until he was 43.

no calzaghe would wait until he's dead. fight has just been signed for april in wales.

[Roger Mellie]

no calzaghe would wait until he's dead. fight has just been signed for april in wales.

right on cue,the mere mention of his name and ****face daggum slides out from under his rock with another unfunny remark!