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  • #61
    Floyd Mayweather
    Wlad Klitschko

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    • #62
      Juan Manuel Marquez

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Silencers View Post
        Does Ricardo Lopez qualify as this era? He was one of the best pure boxers I've seen.
        Yep, Ricardo Lopez was a textbook perfect fighter.

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        • #64
          When talking about fundamentals, I don't think that you can put Hopkins or Mayweather in that discussion because what they do isn't something you want or even can teach.

          Hopkins is very slick and awkward, Mayweather keeps his hands low and does things that his incredible physical gifts allow him to.

          When thinking of text book fighters and someone you would want to watch and learn from, I would say Oscar DeLaHoya is great example of how to fight in the traditional way.

          Great amateur background, so he has that fundamental skill and just throws picture perfect punches, especially the left hook and lead jab.

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          • #65
            bernard hopkins

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            • #66
              Mayweather or Hopkins yes.

              Hopkins has really good fundamentals in boxing. That's why he gives boxing tips in "Ring Magazine". he's know what he's talking about.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Low Blow Armo View Post
                What a surprise, you're huggin Hopkins nuts again.
                And you're a ****ing idiot.

                Clearly it's Hopkins.

                Good Runners up:


                JMM
                Castillo (inside fighting is very fundamental and sound the way he does it)
                Casamayor (obvious from a few years ago)
                James Toney (shell style)
                Ricardo Lopez


                I can't include Mayweather because he doesn't use the jab and he switches to unorthodox stances a lot. But he is pretty fundamentally sound, he just doesn't need to use it all the time.
                Last edited by bsrizpac; 01-15-2009, 09:43 AM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post
                  When talking about fundamentals, I don't think that you can put Hopkins or Mayweather in that discussion because what they do isn't something you want or even can teach.

                  Hopkins is very slick and awkward, Mayweather keeps his hands low and does things that his incredible physical gifts allow him to.

                  When thinking of text book fighters and someone you would want to watch and learn from, I would say Oscar DeLaHoya is great example of how to fight in the traditional way.

                  Great amateur background, so he has that fundamental skill and just throws picture perfect punches, especially the left hook and lead jab.

                  Absolutely incorrect. If I as a trainer were to tell any boxer to watch a pro, it would be Bernard Hopkins.

                  Awkward? He keeps his stance almost all the time. In fact he's the only boxer I can name as a pro who keeps his ****ing right hand glued to his chin when he jabs.

                  Oscar? He's been known to use a swing jab and lead with left hooks. Yeah that's not a good idea to emulate.

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                  • #69
                    Ricardo Mayorga and Brian Vera

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by -GBGQ- View Post
                      Don't get me wrong. That was one of the most clinical performances I've ever seen and a true masterpiece.
                      Then take a fight like the Tarver fight where once again he put on a ridiculously good performance but he did it using his defense to shake straight forward opponents up.

                      Bernard's strength is too move away from you, get yourself to open up, then throw his head and bore his way into you so your not going to get a clean shot at him. Name one other fighter who fights this way? There isn't many and that's what makes Bernard one of a kind. But that's far from FUNDAMENTAL. And at times that's what's made Bernard hard to watch. (not me personally, but from other fans)

                      Iron Boy is coming in and out at all angles with his hands up and legs first. Not crashing into someone after a right hand lead. Everything is textbook done with precision.

                      Bernard is as cold as they come but your not going to teach a newcomer the basics by watching Bernard fight. This is also the reason he wasn't able to hold off elite athlete's like Jones, Taylor, and Calzaghe. He couldn't distance himself enough off of them to use his jump in offense.
                      I'm just going to keep reposting this until someone responds. Why? Because I feel like I'm THAT MUCH right.

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