the most fundamental boxer in this era

[twanky1]

Winky Wright deserves a mention unless being a southpaw disqualifies him...

Well he does have a bit of a wierd stance, not to mention the way he carries his guard doesnt work for everyone. He also throws his hooks a bit strangly.

[-Swizzy-]

who is the most fundamental boxer?

you know hands up, chins down, perfect stance, balance, movement, good work of jab, defense, counter, etc...

ive been watching alot of fights lately and i think bernard hopkins is probably the most fundamental boxer in the 90s and this era. (although he probably will retire soon).

well thats my opinion.

Floyd Mayweather and Ivan Calderon.

[TheGreatA]

Well he does have a bit of a wierd stance, not to mention the way he carries his guard doesnt work for everyone. He also throws his hooks a bit strangly.

I agree, he does have long arms which help with his style. But he makes it work perfectly.

[twanky1]

Im not sure Winky and B-Hop would agree with u on the Tito thing!!

Bhop and Winky are master boxers. Sometimes it takes going beyond the fundamentals to be truly great... Just look at Roy Jones

[Dambala]

Oscar De La Hoya, Cristian Mijares, Marco Antonio Barrera.

[j3kk]

winky wright is fundamental but he squares up too his opponent too much making him a bigger target. but his forearms are abnormally long that when he does that defense where he puts both fists infront of his head. his head and body is securely protected. damn i wish i had long forearms like that.

[KILLA RIGHT]

I gotta go floyd but also most underated fundementals arthur abraham

[BennyST]

Exactly, watching Ricardo Lopez is like watching how to box 101, he was definitely a textbook boxer.

If someone was wanting to learn how to fight properly, then watching Lopez would be the best way to go in my opinion. He was one of the most complete, fundamentally perfect boxers I've ever seen. Yes, that includes Hopkins, Mayweather, Toney, etc etc etc etc.

The 'Philly Shell' is not an orthodox fighting style. It is what you would most definitely call an unorthodox style of boxing. People are getting confused with 'The best boxer vs the best fundamental boxer'.

Textbook is textbook. It is what you teach a young, new kid coming in to learn how to box well. Throwing lead left hooks and hardly any jabs is about as far from textbook as you can get. If you think Mayweather is textbook then you have not learned what textbook boxing is.

Pot-shotting is not textbook. If a trainer tells you to pot-shot as a textbook fighter, you should leave him real quick. Having a lead right as your main weapon is not textbook. If you're a brilliant textbook boxer you're best weapon is your jab, no questions. You might have a great, powerful punch of some type but your most important weapon is the jab and it is what you use most.

Also, guys like Mayweather, Hopkins etc do not throw textbook combinations. They do of course, but they are not their signature moves and the ones they use to most effect. Mayweather knocking out N'Dou with three lead rights? About as far from fundamentally sound as you could ask for.

Mayweather, Hopkins, Toney, etc have all learned the fundamental, textbook style of fighting but have gone beyond it. If you're thinking they are fundamental you should not be teaching boxing. You will get your poor students KO'd real quick.

[BennyST]

I gotta go floyd but also most underated fundementals arthur abraham

No way! Abraham is seriously off on being a fundamental fighter. He swings his hooks way out, sticks his chin out when throwing combinations......

Man, why do people think Mayweather is fundamental? He is not a fundamentally sound boxer. If you showed tapes of him to a young guy learning to fight and nothing else they would get ****ed up real quick. You need abnormal physical gifts to do what he does.

If you showed Lopez to some young guy and nothing else he could be very, very good and win all the way to championship level, no questions.

[BennyST]

Oscar De La Hoya, Cristian Mijares, Marco Antonio Barrera.

Barrera in his latter days was very good as a sound textbook fighter. Very good.