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  • Horus
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    #61
    Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
    It means Floyd didn't defend against the career welters, just the one timer, one time.

    Hes a *****, deal with it.
    IF Floyd is a ***** and wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he never fought any good welterweights....

    What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???

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    • Sweet Pea 50
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      #62
      I could see people putting him up there top 30. I still don't think he is done, either.

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      • Vasyl’s dad
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        #63
        Floyd will go down as one of the worst welterweight champions ever.



        He had an incredible class of fighters to prove his point as being the greatest ever too.

        Too bad he didn't have the huevos to try it.


        LMAO at his stans.


        Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Clottey>>>>>>Floyd.

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        • Horus
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          #64
          Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
          Floyd will go down as one of the worst welterweight champions ever.



          He had an incredible class of fighters to prove his point as being the greatest ever too.

          Too bad he didn't have the huevos to try it.


          LMAO at his stans.


          Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Clottey>>>>>>Floyd.
          IF Floyd is a ***** and wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he never fought any good welterweights and one of the worst welterweight champions ever....

          What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???

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            #65
            Originally posted by Horus
            IF Floyd is a ***** and wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he never fought any good welterweights....

            What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???
            Against the proper opponents, it means alot.

            Against lower tier opposition, it means schit.

            Don't forget, we're talking All Time status here.

            Its not like the opposition isn't there for Floyd to prove himself.

            So, why are you so against it?


            LOL, I'm trying to help give Floyd some credit here, because in terms of all time greatness, its dependant on who you fought.


            The opportunities are there Floyd.

            Be an all time great, DO IT!

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            • Horus
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              #66
              Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
              Against the proper opponents, it means alot.

              Against lower tier opposition, it means schit.

              Don't forget, we're talking All Time status here.

              Its not like the opposition isn't there for Floyd to prove himself.

              So, why are you so against it?


              LOL, I'm trying to help give Floyd some credit here, because in terms of all time greatness, its dependant on who you fought.


              The opportunities are there Floyd.

              Be an all time great, DO IT!
              You are Not understanding my question....


              If Floyd just Like Ricky Hatton wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he never fought any good welterweights in your words...

              Just like you say Ricky Hatton wasnt a good win for Floyd because he wasnt fighting Floyd at his best weight which is 140. Well since Floyd also
              wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he didnt look impressive At the weight and didnt fight nobody.


              What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean for a fighter like (Margarito,Cotto,Mosely,Berto,Clottey) if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???

              Floyd Had 39 Fights in which 31 fights were at 135 and under.
              Only 8 Fights were at 140 and up.

              Ricky Hatton had more fights at 140 AND UP then Floyd did...


              Both Floyd and Ricky Hatton were Welter Weight Champions.
              Floyd started at 130
              Ricky Started at 140


              So What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???


              Wouldnt a win against a fighter like Margarito who been at WW his whole career be more impressive then a Win over Floyd...
              In your eyes...

              Since Margarito has been impressive at ww, and been there his whole career?????????


              Last edited by Horus; 01-12-2009, 01:49 AM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Horus
                You are Not understanding my question....


                If Floyd just Like Ricky Hatton wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he never fought any good welterweights in your words...

                Just like you say Ricky Hatton wasnt a good win for Floyd because he wasnt fighting Floyd at his best weight which is 140. Well since Floyd also
                wasnt a impressive welterweight champion because he didnt look impressive At the weight and didnt fight nobody.


                What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean for a fighter like (Margarito,Cotto,Mosely,Berto,Clottey) if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???

                Floyd Had 39 Fights in which 31 fights were at 135 and under.
                Only 8 Fights were at 140 and up.

                Ricky Hatton had more fights at 140 AND UP then Floyd did...


                Both Floyd and Ricky Hatton were Welter Weight Champions.
                Floyd started at 130
                Ricky Started at 140


                So What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean if he wasnt impressive at welterweight???


                Wouldnt a win against a fighter like Margarito who been at WW his whole career be more impressive then a Win over Floyd...
                In your eyes...

                Since Margarito has been impressive at ww, and been there his whole career?????????


                That question make zero sense... You try to explain it a little better, but then it still makes zero sense.

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                • Horus
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                  Floyd will go down as one of the worst welterweight champions ever.

                  Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Clottey>>>>>>Floyd.
                  If Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Clottey>>>>>>Floyd All had better careers at Welterweight than Floyd...

                  And Floyd wasnt impressive at Welterweight...!!


                  What does a win over a fighter who wasnt impressive at Welterweight Means?
                  • Does it mean you beat a mediocre Welterweight?
                  • Does it mean you beat a fighter who didnt belong at Welterweight because most of his career was at 135 and under?
                  • Does it mean you beat a fighter who never was impreesive at Welterweight anyways?


                  What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean for a fighter like (Margarito,Cotto,Mosely,Berto,Clottey) if Floyd wasnt impressive at welterweight???

                  If Cotto,Mosely,Berto,Margarito,Williams,Clottey are the real big dogs and the real impressive ones at the weight...

                  Then a win over Williams should be more impressive than a win over Floyd.
                  Then a win over Cotto should be more impressive than a win over Floyd.
                  Then a win over Margarito should be more impressive than a win over Floyd.
                  Then a win over Mosely should be more impressive than a win over Floyd.
                  Then a win over Clottey should be more impressive than a win over Floyd.
                  Then a win over Berti should be more impressive than a win over Floyd.

                  Because they are all career welterweights and resumes more impressive then
                  Floyds at Welterweight.

                  So my question is What does a Floyd win at welterweight mean for a fighter like (Margarito,Cotto,Mosely,Berto,Clottey) if Floyd wasnt impressive at welterweight???
                  Last edited by Horus; 01-12-2009, 02:13 AM.

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                  • Jim Jeffries
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                    #69
                    So what Horus is saying is that a Hatton win over Pac means nothing, since Pac has never fought at 140 before. And of course a Klitschko (either) win over David Haye means nothing, since David hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse at HW.
                    Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 01-12-2009, 02:17 AM.

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                    • RodBarker
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                      Thats exactly the point dummy.


                      Floyd has never been a commander in chief when it came to money. Before DLH gave him a chance at stardom, Floyd was like everyone else on the scene. Notice how I said DLH gave him a chance?

                      Where would Floyd be without the help of others?

                      And he has the audacity to turn his back on the boxing community by refusing matches that would be, great for the sport, make him some money, and give another fighter a chance at stardom.

                      DLH could have easily told Floyd the same thing, "you can't even grab a 500,000 PPV, why should I fight you?"


                      DLH never needed to piggyback off any other fighter, he created his own star.

                      Floyd just wants to act like he did.

                      How naive can you be?
                      Thing is mate , he is there now and unbeaten and thats what your dirty on !

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