Why does Juan Diaz not want a rematch with Nate Campbell?

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  • LOLORSKATES
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    #41
    Originally posted by Boxing_Girl23
    Juan Diaz was knowm for breaking his oponents will, and in the Nate Campbell fight he had his will to win broken, he got discouraged from getting cut, and that he had a fighter in front of him that would not back down or go away, and at the end of the day I dont think he wants to be in the ring with someone that has done that to him and could be it again.
    I agree, and I don't think it's a bad idea either.

    I'm just saying that it's very corny and un-warriorlike. I'd give Diaz more credit if he took the rematch, got his ass beat again ala Cintron going after Margarito than the sad display he is putting on by ducking a rematch.

    I hope Marquez puts Diaz in his place because Marquez would atleast try and be the best champion he can be and fight Campbell.

    Don't try and call yourself a world champion when you don't want to get your old belts back from the guy who whipped your ass.

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    • pistol whip
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      #42
      Originally posted by Erbad
      Go here, down to 3-23-08, the video of the Casamayor-Katsidis post-fight press conference.


      It is video of Campbell at the press conference calling out Casamayor for a rematch. Casamayor was Campbell's mandatory, then gave up that status to fight Marquez. Get your facts straight.

      Pound for pound on whose list? Your own? Pound for pound lists are all subjective, some people have Calzaghe number 2. And most of Marquez's achievements have been in lighter divisions.

      I don't care what you did in other divisions, I only want to hear about the number 1 lightweight, the guy with the belts Campbell, and the number 2 or 3 lightweight Juan Diaz, who lost to Campbell.

      1. the fact that you mention the Alphabet titles means you know jack and **** about boxing. Those belts don't make you a champion they just help keep your pants from falling off your waste. The one and only champion at lightweight is Marquez who won it from the the former champ Casamayor. Neither Campbell or Diaz were ever Champions they were just Titleholders which are just trinkets that Marquez and Casamayor wipe their ass with.


      2. The Ring magazing who's belt is considered the true Championship in any division ranks Marquez number two. There is no other list more prestigious than the ring PFP list in the world and I dare you to even name one.




      3. Casamayor was champ at lightweight for ****ing ever and it took Campbell 5 years to call him out? Dont make me laugh!!!


      In all serious I don't think Nate Campbell has ducked anyone ever but i just feel like giving you a taste of your own ******ity.

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        #43
        Originally posted by pistol whip
        1. the fact that you mention the Alphabet titles means you know jack and **** about boxing. Those belts don't make you a champion they just help keep your pants from falling off your waste. The one and only champion at lightweight is Marquez who won it from the the former champ Casamayor. Neither Campbell or Diaz were ever Champions they were just Titleholders which are just trinkets that Marquez and Casamayor wipe their ass with.


        2. The Ring magazing who's belt is considered the true Championship in any division ranks Marquez number two. There is no other list more prestigious than the ring PFP list in the world and I dare you to even name one.




        3. Casamayor was champ at lightweight for ****ing ever and it took Campbell 5 years to call him out? Dont make me laugh!!!


        In all serious I don't think Nate Campbell has ducked anyone ever but i just feel like giving you a taste of your own ******ity.
        How can you discredit every belt but esteem the Ring which has flaws of its own. If you say Casamayor was the real champ then what was Santa Cruz.
        Last edited by Bhopreign; 01-10-2009, 09:32 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          1. the fact that you mention the Alphabet titles means you know jack and **** about boxing. Those belts don't make you a champion they just help keep your pants from falling off your waste. The one and only champion at lightweight is Marquez who won it from the the former champ Casamayor. Neither Campbell or Diaz were ever Champions they were just Titleholders which are just trinkets that Marquez and Casamayor wipe their ass with.


          2. The Ring magazing who's belt is considered the true Championship in any division ranks Marquez number two. There is no other list more prestigious than the ring PFP list in the world and I dare you to even name one.




          3. Casamayor was champ at lightweight for ****ing ever and it took Campbell 5 years to call him out? Dont make me laugh!!!


          In all serious I don't think Nate Campbell has ducked anyone ever but i just feel like giving you a taste of your own ******ity.
          1. The belts don't make you the champion, but the fact that you took them off the waist of Juan Diaz means that they meant something. Casamayor really lost to Santa Cruz and was inactive while Juan Diaz was beating all of the titlists in the division.

          2. Ring Magazine is owned by the promoter of Juan Manuel Marquez, Juan Diaz and Joel Casamayor. Tell me I'm lying.

          3. Casamayor was champ at lightweight since '06, by that time Campbell had won an IBF eliminator, was trying to get a shot at Julio Diaz, Diaz instead fought Juan Diaz and lost, then Campbell beat Juan Diaz's ass.

          Wanting to unify the title by beating the guy who most people, regardless of what Ring Magazine says, felt was the best, he called out his mandatory and Casamayor excused him and said I want no part of a rematch.

          Why are only Juan Diaz fans going up against me? LOL

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            #45
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            How can you discredit every belt but esteem the Ring which has flaws of its own. If you say Casamayor was the real champ then what was Santa Cruz.
            Because it's convenient.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Erbad
              1. The belts don't make you the champion, but the fact that you took them off the waist of Juan Diaz means that they meant something. Casamayor really lost to Santa Cruz and was inactive while Juan Diaz was beating all of the titlists in the division.

              2. Ring Magazine is owned by the promoter of Juan Manuel Marquez, Juan Diaz and Joel Casamayor. Tell me I'm lying.

              3. Casamayor was champ at lightweight since '06, by that time Campbell had won an IBF eliminator, was trying to get a shot at Julio Diaz, Diaz instead fought Juan Diaz and lost, then Campbell beat Juan Diaz's ass.

              Wanting to unify the title by beating the guy who most people, regardless of what Ring Magazine says, felt was the best, he called out his mandatory and Casamayor excused him and said I want no part of a rematch.

              Why are only Juan Diaz fans going up against me? LOL

              Why don't you and Johnny blow each other somewhere else...Diaz ain't ducking nobody! props to Diaz for going up to the man who gave Pscman all he could handle. Campbell is ****!

              Put it this way I would rather pay to see Juan Diaz fight than go see Campbell for free.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Bhopreign
                How can you discredit every belt but esteem the Ring which as flaws of its own. If you say Casamayor was the real champ then what was Santa Cruz.

                Santa Cruz lost his title shot thats what I say!!!!!!

                I don't give a *** who fans think won the only decision that counts is the official one.

                The reason that I and just about every other boxing fan with half a brain looks to the Ring belt as the only real chamionship is because it has no sanctioning fees period. The alphabet titles are nothing more than a private organization that charges fighters to put on their belts and make the orginization millions of dollars. They arn't intrested in crowning an actual champion so gives a **** about them if thats not their goal.

                The ring has no sanctioning fees and has only one goal, and thats to crown a one and only champion. If thats flawed then I don't know what the *** you want?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by KennyWeldon
                  Why don't you and Johnny blow each other somewhere else...Diaz ain't ducking nobody! props to Diaz for going up to the man who gave Pscman all he could handle. Campbell is ****!

                  Put it this way I would rather pay to see Juan Diaz fight than go see Campbell for free.
                  Campbell is ****, but he beat the living **** out of Juan Diaz? That means you are saying that Juan Diaz is less than ****, since Campbell obviously came out as the better fighter the only time they have fought.

                  Don't take it personal.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    Santa Cruz lost his title shot thats what I say!!!!!!

                    I don't give a *** who fans think won the only decision that counts is the official one.

                    The reason that I and just about every other boxing fan with half a brain looks to the Ring belt as the only real chamionship is because it has no sanctioning fees period. The alphabet titles are nothing more than a private organization that charges fighters to put on their belts and make the orginization millions of dollars. They arn't intrested in crowning an actual champion so gives a **** about them if thats not their goal.

                    The ring has no sanctioning fees and has only one goal, and thats to crown a one and only champion. If thats flawed then I don't know what the *** you want?
                    You know why Casamayor had the Ring belt as long as he did? Because he isnt forced a mandatory, that isnt a real belt if thats the case to me. Besides, having the guy who runs a promotional company run it doesnt help either. The reason you keep seeing Golden Boy fighters fighting one another who have the Ring belt is because they want to keep it in house, bad for boxing.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Erbad
                      1. The belts don't make you the champion, but the fact that you took them off the waist of Juan Diaz means that they meant something. Casamayor really lost to Santa Cruz and was inactive while Juan Diaz was beating all of the titlists in the division.

                      2. Ring Magazine is owned by the promoter of Juan Manuel Marquez, Juan Diaz and Joel Casamayor. Tell me I'm lying.

                      3. Casamayor was champ at lightweight since '06, by that time Campbell had won an IBF eliminator, was trying to get a shot at Julio Diaz, Diaz instead fought Juan Diaz and lost, then Campbell beat Juan Diaz's ass.

                      Wanting to unify the title by beating the guy who most people, regardless of what Ring Magazine says, felt was the best, he called out his mandatory and Casamayor excused him and said I want no part of a rematch.

                      Why are only Juan Diaz fans going up against me? LOL


                      1.Golden Boy bought it in September 2007 and Juan Manuel Marquez was ranked 4th at the time woo hoo big ***ing jump and 4th is till higher than 15th douche bag. Casamayor was crowned champion in october 2006 a full 11 months before tha magazine was bought.


                      2. Winning the belts from Diaz just made Campbell another contender just like diaz was and still is

                      And who are these people who consider Nate the Champ at Lightweight. HBO? No!!!! I remember Kellerman actually asking Diaz after he beat fritas when he was gonna fight the recognized champ at lightweight.

                      The Associated press???? No!!!! http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...htweights.html

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