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  • RisAri0
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    #51
    I wouldn't want B-Hop to fight Dawson due to the fact that I like Dawson and itwould be a shame to see him get "shot" down by The Executioner... And the reason y I think Bernard chose to fight Kelly was because of him trying to justify his loss to Taylor...

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    • slicksouthpaw16
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      #52
      Originally posted by La_Vibora
      B-Hop doesn't have anything else to prove, he has every right to fight whoever he wants at this point. He right though, that there needs to be atleast one unbeaten American star at that class, if Dawson were to lose to Hopkins there would be no one else to be a star at that class. It would hurt the sport, sort of like Pavlik getting dominated by B-Hop has kind of hurt the sport since prior to that Pavlik was starting to be labeled as th next American star of boxing.
      I hope you don't really buy into that. If that was true, then he wouldn't have beaten Pavlik and that fight showed that Bernard cares about his legacy more then future stars. If he felt he could beat Dawson, he would have fought him. In this era, hes probably the fighter that made the best career decisions. He knows he can't keep up with Dawson's speed or work rate at this level, and want's to keep the momentum in his favor by fighting Taylor or Joe again.

      Originally posted by RisAri0
      I wouldn't want B-Hop to fight Dawson due to the fact that I like Dawson and itwould be a shame to see him get "shot" down by The Executioner... And the reason y I think Bernard chose to fight Kelly was because of him trying to justify his loss to Taylor...
      The reason he fought Kelly was because he was the perfect opponent( and wanting to regain some momentum he had lost in the Joe fight),not necessarily the case with Dawson.
      Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 01-10-2009, 04:26 PM.

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      • Vladimir303
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        #53
        Look at it this way. What if - and I'm just saying IF - Hopkins schools Dawson like Young Pavlik. That's one more young champion exposed by and almost retired fighter. While one loss isn't the end, it diminished these guys aura of invincibility and they're not even great champions yet.

        Pavlik was one of the hottest things prior to the Hopkis loss, as was Cotto. How about now?????? Cotto doesn't have it as bad because he can bounce back and have a great Marquez/Vasquez-esque triology with margarito and both fighters legacy gets bigger from it. But Pavlik???

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        • bsrizpac
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          #54
          Originally posted by larryx
          ???no 1 with half a brain stem couldve done that..r u serious
          Yes I am. Ask him about it. He's proud of it.

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          • warp1432
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            #55
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
            I hope you don't really buy into that. If that was true, then he wouldn't have beaten Pavlik and that fight showed that Bernard cares about his legacy more then future stars. If he felt he could beat Dawson, he would have fought him. In this era, hes probably the fighter that made the best career decisions. He knows he can't keep up with Dawson's speed or work rate at this level, and want's to keep the momentum in his favor by fighting Taylor or Joe again.


            Is that how it works now?
            "He knows he can't beat him, so he won't fight him"

            So I'm right to say that Chad Dawson "knows he can't beat Glen Johnson, so that's why there isn't a rematch"? Hopkins wants a Joe Calzaghe fight because he wants to avenge his loss. He might change his mind on Chad Dawson anyway if he knocks out Antonio Tarver or something.

            Chad Dawson "knows he can't beat Adrian Diaconu" that's why he pulled out of a fight with him Of course that isn't true, but by your logic it sounds like it is.

            Joe Calzaghe's workrate and speed is just as good as Chad Dawson's. A Jermain Taylor fight won't happen because there is no public interest.

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            • S.G.
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              #56
              Hopkins won't fight Dawson cos he doesn't need to... there's no reason to

              what he said about not wanted to beat another up-n-comer was clearly just a bit of bravado

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              • Boxingwizard
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                #57
                Originally posted by warp1432
                Is that how it works now?
                "He knows he can't beat him, so he won't fight him"

                So I'm right to say that Chad Dawson "knows he can't beat Glen Johnson, so that's why there isn't a rematch"? Hopkins wants a Joe Calzaghe fight because he wants to avenge his loss. He might change his mind on Chad Dawson anyway if he knocks out Antonio Tarver or something.

                Chad Dawson "knows he can't beat Adrian Diaconu" that's why he pulled out of a fight with him Of course that isn't true, but by your logic it sounds like it is.

                Joe Calzaghe's workrate and speed is just as good as Chad Dawson's. A Jermain Taylor fight won't happen because there is no public interest.
                Chad Dawson didn't fight Adrian Diaconu because he wanted to fight Tarver for $$ and it was going to be televised on Showtime. Even though Dawson would of gotten over million dollars against Diaconu, it actually would of been less because it was not going to be televised on Showtime, and money would of been taken away due to contract agreements with his promoter. If Dawson couldn't get the fight with Tarver, he would of fought Diaconu instead, Dawson even said so himself.

                Last edited by Boxingwizard; 01-10-2009, 05:09 PM.

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                • warp1432
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                  #58
                  I know that. It's just that his logic is flawed because Hopkins has more interest fighting Calzaghe then he does Dawson. To be honest, I don't think Hopkins has interest in fighting Dawson which sucks, but it certainly isn't because "HE KNOWS HE'D LOSE"

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                  • hookoutofhell
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                    #59
                    heres how i see it:

                    hopkins vs dawson @ 175 - hopkins by UD, i can see hopkins spotting a flaw in dawsons make-up and expliting it, i can see him timing him well and neutralizing his speed and he has enough know-how and nous to slow the pace of the game down. whats more dawson has been staggered before and i can see hopkins hurting him.

                    hopkins vs taylor @ 170 - i see taylor getting another SD over popkins, just think he has the old champs number.

                    why does america need an undefeated fighter? what a load of bull! it would be interesting to see if you feel that its right, if so then don't you think that it prevents other fighters from gaining exposure that is rightfull theirs (johnson, kessler).

                    is hopkins afraid of anyone? hmm i dont think hes afraid in the traditional sense but imo he does duck fighters and has ducked fighters beforehand.

                    some ppl would say that if hopkins was really not scared of dawson he would take the fight with him now. i dont buy into that. i think hopkins has made some very good decisions in the past, i think he is probably one of the shrewdest players in the game and its no surprise to me that DLh hs recruited him as part of GBP. hopkins has a very acute and buisness like mind.

                    he knows that if he was to defeat dawson now it would still not mean anything while zaghe is out there. imo he will wait for calzaghe to retire and then look to take on daswon, imo he will win and become a 2 time world LHW champ.

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                    • RAESAAD
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                      #60
                      Of course he's picking his fights carefully but I'm certain Bernard Hopkins fears no man.....

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