Juan Manuel Marquez Wants To Force a Pacquiao Trilogy

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  • Caxcan
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    #61
    Originally posted by loui_ludwig
    Well, if Pac did not move up, JMM would still stay at 130. It took 4 years for the remacth cuz JMM turn it down. So JMM has to wait if there is a trilogy.
    JMM may have initially turned down the rematch because of the money but he had been asking for a rematch for a years before it finally took place last year.

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    • loui_ludwig
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      #62
      Originally posted by titleholder
      Marquez is telling it like it is. Let's be real, if Manny would have lost in the rematch he would've been chasing Marquez for a trilogy as well or are any of you gonna say that Manny would've taken the loss and not try to avenge it??
      I am not saying he won't but there was a talk already of Pac moving up to 135 whether he wins or lose, even though there was a rematch clause. If he did, i believed Pac would have gone for the clause. But JMM did not have the option of a rematch clause. You can blame Pac for that but JMM agreed on it.

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      • wakwak
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        #63
        just stop debating with them you know jmm huggers won't take no for an answer.

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        • trainhard_187
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          #64
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          The Sky is blue, water is wet, and the same could be said about Hagler, Hearns, Suger Ray, and Duran.


          If one of them never fought a day in their life that group just wouldn't be as special.

          What would Joe Louis of been without Schmeling?


          What would Frasier have been without Ali? What would Ali be without Forman?

          Seriously we could play this game all day and all night.
          Ok, none of those fighters would be where they are without each other but as it stands today, where would Marquez be without Pac?

          Pac paved his road and established his own legacy. Take Marquez out of Pac's resume and he would still be P4P anyways. Not everyone credits him with his wars with Marquez anyways.

          Take Pac out of Marquezs resume where would he be?

          Pac dont need Marquez.

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            #65
            Originally posted by trainhard_187
            I dont get how people dont understand this concept. If Pac NEVER MOVED TO 135 TO FIGHT DIAZ, WOULD MARQUEZ OF MOVED UP AND FOUGHT JOEL. NOPE......

            Marquez needs Pacquiao as bad as a crack addict needs his crack.
            This makes alot of sense.... Give Pacquaio credit for JMM moving up to a new weight class and taking on the World champion, especially one as dangerous as casamayor... Its not like Marquez couldn't have taken on a bum like D. Diaz... I don't understand ur logic

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            • loui_ludwig
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              #66
              Originally posted by JaguarJames
              JMM may have initially turned down the rematch because of the money but he had been asking for a rematch for a years before it finally took place last year.
              From what i remember, JMM was asking for a rematch after his first win after the lost to Chris John. Around 2006, summer or fall.

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              • v.cassiusali@ya
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                #67
                marquez must prepare for juan diaz first before entertaining a pacquiao bout. certainly, boxing fans wanted to see pacquiao-uglyboyfloyd or pacquiao-margarito after pac-hatton. but is marquez willing to fight pacquiao for a 70-30 split in pac's favor?

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                • riveraboxing
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by trainhard_187
                  Ok, none of those fighters would be where they are without each other but as it stands today, where would Marquez be without Pac?

                  Pac paved his road and established his own legacy. Take Marquez out of Pac's resume and he would still be P4P anyways. Not everyone credits him with his wars with Marquez anyways.

                  Take Pac out of Marquezs resume where would he be?

                  Pac dont need Marquez.

                  Let me ask u something, where would Pacquaio be without Morales and Barerra???? Great fighters fight other great fighters.. and when their is controversy, try to avenge those close losses

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                  • pistol whip
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by loui_ludwig
                    Well, if Pac did not move up, JMM would still stay at 130. It took 4 years for the remacth cuz JMM turn it down. So JMM has to wait if there is a trilogy.
                    A. Who cares what a Boxers motivation is to move to new challanges the simple fact is he succeeded and he should be given props in taking on the linear champ at lightweight and not the weakest champion at lightweight.


                    B. Juan Manuel Marquez turned down the second fight because he listened to his Trainer and father figure Nacho Bernstein. In hindsight it was bad advice to wait out for more money but stop insinuating that Marquez was afraid or didn't want to do it was just he took bad advice period. In the end out of him, Barrera, and Morales he is the only one left standing and he's been the only person to go punch for punch with Pacman in a long time. When your arch rivals trainer calls you the smartest fighter in boxing then that ****ing means somthing. So when only one round seperates you from the P4P champ then who the **** else are you gonna challange?

                    Seriously why should the Number 2 PFP fighter concentrate on anyone else other than the 1# pfp fighter when they are essentially in the same weighclass. So people like you can say he's ducking pacman?

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                    • trainhard_187
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by riveraboxing
                      This makes alot of sense.... Give Pacquaio credit for JMM moving up to a new weight class and taking on the World champion, especially one as dangerous as casamayor... Its not like Marquez couldn't have taken on a bum like D. Diaz... I don't understand ur logic
                      Its simple, If Pac was still campaigning at 130 would Marquez of moved up to 135. NO.

                      Its common sense that Marquez moved up to get another opp at Pac beating Casamayor to earn the lineal lightweight title hoping to close Pac in on a possible rematch.

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