Your Greatest Of All Time Boxer?

[deemo]

i cant beleive anybody even mentions floyd mayweathers names with any of these guys. to me roy jones at his peak was alot more gifted and impressive than floyd and if you look at his record at the time floyd retires what do you have?

[!! Shawn]

I was just saying I didn't have to go very far back to find someone who is better ability wise.

Whitaker wouldn't need to KO Mayweather, so I don't think he would be hurt by lack of power.

Whitaker's defense is better than Mayweather's prime for prime.

Not only his defense, but his intelligence and movement.

[Brockton Lip]

Robinson, Sam Langford, Henry Armstrong, or Willie Pep. Pick.

[!! Shawn]

I'd also go with Walker Smith, but I don't agree with those that say he's "far ahead" of everyone else.

You can make a case for Henry Armstrong, or maybe Sam Langford.



Hey, whats up.

I've always found it ridiculous when people include Henry Armstrong in lists about the best of tall time.

All one has to do is watch the man fight and its quite easy to see that the man has virtually no technical ability, can't box a lick, has never heard of a jab, and is one tough son of a *****.

Being a tough son of a ***** doesn't make you the best. What he accomplished is without a doubt one of the greatest feats in the history of sports, but he was by no means a skilled, or for that matter great fighter in the grand scheme of things.

[hammerhiem]

I wonder if thats who ricky hatton was watching as a kid for inspiration?

[Thread Stealer]

I've always found it ridiculous when people include Henry Armstrong in lists about the best of tall time.

All one has to do is watch the man fight and its quite easy to see that the man has virtually no technical ability, can't box a lick, has never heard of a jab, and is one tough son of a *****.

Being a tough son of a ***** doesn't make you the best. What he accomplished is without a doubt one of the greatest feats in the history of sports, but he was by no means a skilled, or for that matter great fighter in the grand scheme of things.

It's just a different skill-set. Armstrong is showing a great ability to swarm and slip shots. For instance, at the 4:23 mark, he is within punching range yet manages to slip six consecutive punches. He's getting up close and shortening his blows, particularly to the body, to do more damage. He's fighting very effective at close quarters, showing in-fighting skills. That takes more than just toughness and determination, it takes knowledge and a skill-set of a different kid. It's not what people think of when they talk about "skills" (jabbing, throwing flashy combos, dancing around the ring, etc..), but it's a difficult thing to do and requires skills as well.

Achievements are more important than skills/talent anyway.

[rskumm21]

Any time the question is asked it should always be followed by, "after Sugar Ray Robinson".

[MELLY-MEL...]

sugar ray robinson

[Pretty Boy1]

Just updated the list in the first post. Looking like a land slide win for the legendary Sugar Ray Robinson so far!!

Still waiting on Brockton Lip picking his greates as he listed 4.

[hardmanbrit]

Despite being short, Rocky Marciano beat many exremely tall and truly world-class fighters and he is the only unbeaten Heavyweight Champion of the World in history, so I have always had a soft spot for him.

However, it has to be Muhammad Ali.

How many men could come back after three years out of boxing for refusing to fight alongside your fellow Americans and beat opponents as good as Frazier and Foreman?

Don't forget that he also beat Sonny Liston twice and was a pioneer in relation to the 'Ali Shuffle' and his dancing style.

What a resume, though. That swings it for me.