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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brandish View Postok I see am dealing with a ****** so I am gonna go easy on you
are you saying zab judah the former undisputed 147 champion, and ricky hatton the former WBA 147 champion are not real welterweights, what does that make floyd coming from 130. is 147 floyds first weight class
For someone who almost cried when he felt I insulted him, you seem to like calling other people names.
I notice you do not say how right before the Mayweather fight that Zab had lost to a journeyman or that Hatton himself said that 147 was to big for him after scraping by Collazo. Gee, I wonder why?
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Originally posted by Brandish View Post160 and 175 that equals one more than pep right. and how many title defenses did willie pep have out of his 200+ fights
So, Hopkins has only dominated one division and even in that he lost three times. Once against Jones who he never rematched and twice against Taylor. Explain to us all how you have Hopkins in the top ten....?
He never dominated more than one division, he lost three times in his best weight and never avenged those losses and he went 2-1 at his second division. He also lost one of those fights against someone who had never had a pro fight. How is this better than Duran?
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Originally posted by Brandish View PostI don't do fantasy matchups those debates are worthless
if duran could lose to esteban dejesus, kirkland laing, robbie simms, pat lawlor, and vinnie pazienza I am sure there is someone on floyd's resume greater then the fighters I just listed.
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Originally posted by Brandish View Postgene tunnry is not that great he definitiey wasn't greater then joe luis.
and how many titles did harry greb win, and how long did he reign as champion.
what was greb's record..you post a lot of hyperbole sensationalism,. I just want to see his stats
He also beat eleven Hall of Fame fighters. Eleven. That may very well be unmatched by anyone, ever, even Robinson, but I'm not sure, Robinson may be a little better. I don't know. Eleven. That is from middleweight to heavyweight.
I also remember you saying who did Benny Leonard ever beat. He also beat seven Hall of Fame fighters from lightweight to welterweight. Seven. That's nearly as many as Robinson beat. Fellow HOF'ers that is.
You know what, Robinson didn't beat that many HOF fighters. He beat maybe about eight or nine. Greb beat eleven. How can you say he's a fraud. He was fighting guys like Kid Norfolk who everyone else was avoiding on the race card. He was one of the few back then who fought everyone regardless of race. There is no dis*****g this. It's stands on it's own. The amount of fighters that he beat who were some of the greatest fighters ever is unmatched in history by anyone, even Robinson.
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Originally posted by BennyST View PostI just thought I'd give you a little lesson on why Greb is one of the top three greatest of all time. While you may think Tunney is not that good, he is one of the greatest heavyweight fighters of all time and Greb is the only fighter to have beaten him. He is a middleweight. So, that puts the Ruiz win to shame since you keep bringing that up.
He also beat eleven Hall of Fame fighters. Eleven. That may very well be unmatched by anyone, ever, even Robinson, but I'm not sure, Robinson may be a little better. I don't know. Eleven. That is from middleweight to heavyweight.
I also remember you saying who did Benny Leonard ever beat. He also beat seven Hall of Fame fighters from lightweight to welterweight. Seven. That's nearly as many as Robinson beat. Fellow HOF'ers that is.
You know what, Robinson didn't beat that many HOF fighters. He beat maybe about eight or nine. Greb beat eleven. How can you say he's a fraud. He was fighting guys like Kid Norfolk who everyone else was avoiding on the race card. He was one of the few back then who fought everyone regardless of race. There is no dis*****g this. It's stands on it's own. The amount of fighters that he beat who were some of the greatest fighters ever is unmatched in history by anyone, even Robinson.
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Originally posted by Brandish View Postduran was inconsistent throughout his career and did not dominate any wieghtclass outside of his first
Does any of this make any difference to you Brandish? Seriously, does beating eleven HOF'ers, more than any other fighter in history, beating some of the greatest fighters ever from middleweight to heavyweight and reigning as a middleweight champ for years make you consider his place among the top five fighters all time possible?
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Originally posted by Enemy/Friend View PostListen,there is nothing you can say that will change his mind....you shouldn't waste your time. He is obviously on a Black power trip,judging by the posts in this thread alone. Jesse Jackson couldn't even tell him Pep or Greb is an All Time Great.
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Originally posted by BennyST View PostYeah, I know, everyone has given up obviously sensing the pointlessness of it. I don't know, I just can't believe that someone can so obviously ignore what's right in front of their face and yet keep telling everyone else that they are the one who is blind and ignorant. It's baffling and hilarious at the same time. I'm simply stunned by this guy. It's amazing how someone can so completely shut everything out that he doesn't want to hear or read and just focus on these tiny little things that make him believe whatever it is that he believes. A psychoanalyst would have a field day with this guy.Last edited by Enemy/Friend; 01-02-2009, 04:21 AM.
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