Yet Another Thing Wrong With Boxing

[Vladimir303]

I wish Allan Green would get his chance. I like him, but I don't think he will be able to win a title. .

Dieeeee!!!!!!!

[Ryn0]

The way different fighters are given different treatment on their way up to the top.

3 examples:

Antonio Margarito/Bernard Hopkins/Juan Manuel Marquez - Guys who lost at the beginning of their careers, and had to beat a lot of good people to dig their way back up to their title shot. This is the way it always should be. You should have to beat good fighters in order to get your title shot. People with the resume of Andre Berto should not have a world title.

Kelly Pavlik/Andre Berto/Ricky Hatton - Somewhat unknown when they started, but caught fire with their flashy undefeated records, and were able to skip some steps on the way up to their world title runs. Although Pavlik did not skip his step, when he fought Edison Miranda, he probably could have.

Jermain Taylor/Floyd Mayweather Jr./Roy Jones Jr. - Generally former Olympians, the most hyped of all fighters. These guys get to do whatever they want, whenever they want. They can have as many or as few fights before they choose to step up and fight whatever champion they want. They are a draw because the networks make them so, so they bypass hardworking fighters like Margarito and Marquez on their way to the title, even though they have not fought anyone as good as the guys who had to dig their way up from the bottom.

Rankings should be based on resume 100% rather than ranking.

It should not be 100% resume although it should be a large part of it, because if it were 100% resume then you'd just recycle opponents for the titles holders until they retire or lose ALOT and alot of the younger guys would never get their shot.

[Fox McCloud]

It should not be 100% resume although it should be a large part of it, because if it were 100% resume then you'd just recycle opponents for the titles holders until they retire or lose ALOT and alot of the younger guys would never get their shot.

Resume works a couple of different way.

There is never a problem with two undefeated fighters fighting each other before their first title shot. They may be a nobody at the end fo their career, or they may be a Sergio Martinez (a la Antonio Margarito).

Either way, untested prospects fighting each other weeds one untested prospect out and turns one untested prospect into a tested prospect.

Arreola vs. Witherspoon
Arreola vs. Walker
Povetkin vs. Chambers
Pavlik vs. Miranda
Miranda vs. Green

All of these matchups exemplify the best things that can happen in the sport.

[Vladimir303]

Resume works a couple of different way.

There is never a problem with two undefeated fighters fighting each other before their first title shot. They may be a nobody at the end fo their career, or they may be a Sergio Martinez (a la Antonio Margarito).

Either way, untested prospects fighting each other weeds one untested prospect out and turns one untested prospect into a tested prospect.

Arreola vs. Witherspoon
Arreola vs. Walker
Povetkin vs. Chambers
Pavlik vs. Miranda
Miranda vs. Green

All of these matchups exemplify the best things that can happen in the sport.

Or both prospects are future great, i.e. Roy Jones vs Bernard Hopkins in 1993.

Would've been much better if they had not fought at that time and saved themselfs up for later when they both became champions.

[Fox McCloud]

Or both prospects are future great, i.e. Roy Jones vs Bernard Hopkins in 1993.

Would've been much better if they had not fought at that time and saved themselfs up for later when they both became champions.

I mean, or they could have just done both and not acted like ****s about money... either one.

[Allucard]

The way different fighters are given different treatment on their way up to the top.

3 examples:

Antonio Margarito/Bernard Hopkins/Juan Manuel Marquez - Guys who lost at the beginning of their careers, and had to beat a lot of good people to dig their way back up to their title shot. This is the way it always should be. You should have to beat good fighters in order to get your title shot. People with the resume of Andre Berto should not have a world title.

Kelly Pavlik/Andre Berto/Ricky Hatton/Joe Calzaghe - Somewhat unknown when they started, but caught fire with their flashy undefeated records, and were able to skip some steps on the way up to their world title runs. Although Pavlik did not skip his step, when he fought Edison Miranda, he probably could have.

Jermain Taylor/Floyd Mayweather Jr./Roy Jones Jr. - Generally former Olympians, the most hyped of all fighters. These guys get to do whatever they want, whenever they want. They can have as many or as few fights before they choose to step up and fight whatever champion they want. They are a draw because the networks make them so, so they bypass hardworking fighters like Margarito and Marquez on their way to the title, even though they have not fought anyone as good as the guys who had to dig their way up from the bottom.

Rankings should be based on resume 100% rather than ranking.

You forgot a few ones, fixed the most flagrant for you. How can you even mention padded undefeated records without mentioning the one guy who fought for over a decade in obscure europe defending mandatories and runs for gold against a couple 40 year olds and calls himself the best ever from Britain?
It is true an undefeated record matters more than the networks/promotions make of it and that's just wrong. In mma the best p4p fighter in the world has 4 defeats, now he's untouchable. It wouldn't be so hard for fighters like Margarito if the ORGS weren't so corrupt. There is a reason why most mandatories chosen by the orgs are irrelevant fighters: they want to leave the making of real big fights to the promoters and thus, it's in their best interest to keep the fighters they have safe. Boxing is more of a popularity show than a real sport imo and that's why i pulled it's plug a long time ago. I ain't gonna pay for it no matter how big the next mismatch seems to be.