Joe Calzaghe, Paper Champ?

[xfiles]

Oh really. And that's a fact, is it? Shame on Hopkins for backing out of the 2002 fight then, isn't it. If it would be so easy for Hopkins to "smoke" Calzaghe, why turn a fight down with JC for 3 million and take a fight with Morade Hakkar instead for 1.25 million? Surely "smoking" Calzaghe would have been a better win than beating up Hakkar?



Only 17 out of 46 fights were in Wales. Buy a calculator.

In 2002 Morade Hakkar and Joe ***zaghe were on about the same level though.

[xfiles]

Oh really. And that's a fact, is it? Shame on Hopkins for backing out of the 2002 fight then, isn't it. If it would be so easy for Hopkins to "smoke" Calzaghe, why turn a fight down with JC for 3 million and take a fight with Morade Hakkar instead for 1.25 million? Surely "smoking" Calzaghe would have been a better win than beating up Hakkar?



Only 17 out of 46 fights were in Wales. Buy a calculator.

By the way if you're at home calculating Joe "The slappy ***" Calzaghe's record then It's pretty safe to say you have to much time on your hands....

[xfiles]

who'd go to wales to fight a nobody? he'd earn about 500 dollars for that fight.. worth it? i think not
calzaghe should've went to hopkins and jones, he's the one that had somethin to prove

Exactly....

[nathan_nall]

He doesn't need to beat that piece of trash Popkins again. He should fight Dawson though.

I agree. I don't see Bernard being able to do anything the second time around to change the outcome. Hopkins has had 3 rematches.... turned a draw into a TKO win.... a no contest into a TKO win... and a close loss into an even worse loss against Taylor. So I don't know... but Dawson is where its at at Light Heavy if Joe wants to fight again. I don't think we'll see that though. Calzaghe wants to fight living legends... and living legends are only born after they've peaked.

[Testdead]

who'd go to wales to fight a nobody? he'd earn about 500 dollars for that fight.. worth it? i think not
calzaghe should've went to hopkins and jones, he's the one that had somethin to prove

Hopkins was offered $3million and by 2002 i think would be a career high.

[xfiles]

What do you call agreeing the terms of a fight and then all of a sudden asking for double of what he was getting?

Define agreeing? Did he sign a contract? If not then STFU!

[Testdead]

Define agreeing? Did he sign a contract? If not then STFU!

Its not up for debate Hopkins ducked Calzaghe in 2002.

Shame they didnt have a thing called internet in Detroit in 02 otherwise you would know that.

[SickmyDuck]

Well said, BTW Spidersilva, Hopkins has names on his resume that would be considered Calzaghe's Biggest wins. So i would not go down that route mate

I dislike Joe and i think his resume isnt great but Hopkins middleweight resume isnt THAT much better than Calzaghe`s at super middleweight

the division during Hopkins` time was not strong and anyone who says otherwise doesn`t know what the **** they are talking about

you get that, mate

[XYZ112]

A super middle weight - Joe is the goods. As light heavy he is sort of a paper champ.

[iron mike tyson]

When he says in Wales, he means in the UK. You know what he means, so don't act desperate mate..

As for Hopkins "backing out" lol?

The whole point was Hopkins not coming to the UK to fight a someone with a WBO holder.

It's the same thing as say Chad Dawson going to fight Lucian Bute. I mean why would he want to do that for?

Hopkins was undisputed for most of his MW career.Calzaghe held the shabby WBO belt for 10 years, was undisputed for 1 day and went to LH.

The only people who rate him are idiots thinking beating a 40 year old man, who is 3-3 in his last 6 fights is something "special", and surviving against a 43 year old and taking a dodgy SD decision is something to write home about.

I dont think i have ever seen a career with such a big question mark on it.

I mean, the fact that as soon as he fired Frank Warren, and Frank Warren exposed Calzaghe, such as his desire to always want to pull out of fights etc. says it all

nah he was ibf titlist from 95 to 2001 until he unified the first belt against holmes. he then later that year beat a welterweight to unify 3 off 4 belts