Joe Calzaghe, Paper Champ?

[MANGLER]

No. I'd like to see him rematch Hopkins and it sucks he won't, but that don't make him a paper champ. I'd like to see him fight Dawson or Johnson too, but I don't think he's got anything to prove against those guys. He beat Hopkins who is better than everybody else at 175 imo, so he can retire without questions, at least about his LHW run.

[hammerhiem]

well since you didn't follow boxing you probably never knew that those were all top ten fighters cept william bo james, steve frank, and hakkar. guess your own personal rankings system is better than the rings?

Daggum buddy, I think BHop has the best resume of any current fighter, but most of Bhops MW opponents had about 20 fight usually against no one in particular and never did anything post losing to BHop.

they got top 10 Ring because they where American prospects, nothing more.

But compairing the best Resume in modern boxing to anyone is an exercise in futility.

[daggum]

Daggum buddy, I think BHop has the best resume of any current fighter, but most of Bhops MW opponents had about 20 fight usually against no one in particular and never did anything post losing to BHop.

they got top 10 Ring because they where American prospects, nothing more.

But compairing the best Resume in modern boxing to anyone is an exercise in futility.

i knew someone would say the ring was biased for americans. great excuse. why wasn't the great will mcintyre rated at super middle? he was a hot american prospect...................oh wait he was a bum calzaghe picked on for another one of his bull**** title defenses.

[hammerhiem]

i knew someone would say the ring was biased for americans. great excuse. why wasn't the great will mcintyre rated at super middle? he was a hot american prospect...................oh wait he was a bum calzaghe picked on for another one of his bull**** title defenses.

You misunderstand me Daggum.

It's not bias, up until recently America was the hotbed of boxing, a prospect coming through the gyms in the states should have been ranked higher, it's both right and natural that a prospect in the 90's from America would be highly ranked by Ring, the very fact that european prospect now dominate shows Ring's lack of bias.

Thats why I rate Bhops resume so highly.

[daggum]

You misunderstand me Daggum.

It's not bias, up until recently America was the hotbed of boxing, a prospect coming through the gyms in the states should have been ranked higher, it's both right and natural that a prospect in the 90's from America would be highly ranked by Ring, the very fact that european prospect now dominate shows Ring's lack of bias.

Thats why I rate Bhops resume so highly.

so in other words i win?

[hammerhiem]

so in other words i win?

What are you trying to win?

BHop's resume is better than Calzaghe's? has anyone ever argued with that?

If that what you want me to say go back three posts and you'll notivce i said he had that best resume in boxing today.

I think Calzaghe's is about 15th.

[xfiles]

If Joe retires without giving Hopkins a rematch, or fighting any of the other top contenders in consideration, will he go down as a Paper Champion?

Yes, He held a WBO title for 10 years without even trying to get a real title for Christ sake. What do you think?

[xfiles]

calzaghe a paper champ? that's an insult to paper!

Calzaghe will be regarded a **** hair higher then Sven Ottke.

[xfiles]

Then what does that make the man in your avatar who got ****d by him?

Is ****d English slang for getting his head punched in and dropped all the while retaliating with sissy slaps?

[xfiles]

The middleweight division Hopkins made his name in was pitiful

His biggest win came at Middleweight came against a Welterweight

Calzaghe`s division may not have been great but Hopkins division for most of his career was piss poor

Yeah but it was still light years ahead of Cal***gy's and he wasn't even on top of his. At least Hopkins was considered the best the whole ten years of his reign. Calzaghe was considered the best by default after 8 years.