OK, lets set this str8 about Oscar tonight....

[S A M U R A I]

Oscar has been "in the best shape of my life" going into his last 30 fights.

Oh, absolutely, but he believed it, I'm sure of it. That's pretty much my point.

I'm still waiting for the day we hear a fighter say "I had a **** training camp, I feel like throwing up... I'm just not ready."





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[Stab Judah]

Oh, absolutely, but he believed it, I'm sure of it. That's pretty much my point.

I'm still waiting for the day we hear a fighter say "I had a **** training camp, I feel like throwing up... I'm just not ready."

lol yeah or "Yeah i really got my ass kicked in there tonight the judge was 100% correct!"

[S A M U R A I]

lol yeah or "Yeah i really got my ass kicked in there tonight the judge was 100% correct!"

Or "Zab has every right to punch that damn ref in the throat, the fight was stopped too damn early!"



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[We want Floyd]

I think its a combo of the three. It was a perfect storm and Oscar got ****ed up.

Exactly. Everyone kept comparing DLH's performance against Floyd and was so surprise at how PAC handled DLH.

Why the comparison, because Floyd is seen as the much superior fighter over PAC. But y'all forget about the old saying in boxing "styles make fights". Yes, Floyd appears to be the more talented fighter compared to PAC. But, Floyd with his dismal workrate gave DLH opportunities whereas PAC as usual was always busy, whether it was having his fists all over DLH or moving side to side it didn't allow DLH to get set.

Floyd and DLH were both natural counter-punchers, but look when Floyd decided to put something together on DLH, Oscar reacted the same way when PAC put his combos together, the faster fighters froze DLH with their combos. If Floyd would've stepped up the pressure in those middle rounds when DLH stopped jabbing, I'm almost certain DLH would've looked like the mirror image of the DLH that fought PAC.

[FasTHarD]

Except Freddie Roach agrees with all three...which is why he took the chance with the fight.

Roach took the fight when he saw Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore since the Mayweather fight.... Mayweather beat a can't pull a trigger Oscar and so as Manny...


By the way why you point your post on me?

[S A M U R A I]

At 135 Manny weights 147 come fight night, sp he knows how it is like fighting at 147

That's true bro, point taken, but Oscar is still insane. Dude has been a pro for how long? He's got a dream team of trainers, dietitians, etc etc, he should know better. If he was weight drained, he truly deserved an ass kicking because he played an amateurish game.



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[Benny Leonard]

[B]Roach took the fight when he saw Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore since the Mayweather fight.... Mayweather beat a can't pull a trigger Oscar and so as Manny...


By the way why you point your post on me

Freddie also used the weight-issue.

And I never counted the victory over Oscar as a big deal with Floyd. I even said Oscar was past his prime. The only thing if there is anything about that match was that Oscar was bigger and stronger than Floyd at 154 pound division and came into the fight at 164+, or so people have said. That Oscar may have not been able to pull the trigger as Roach said, but he was still at a healthy weight and alive. There was still some hype left with Oscar becausee of the Mayorga KO. I've always said, Floyd's legacy is below 147.

By the way why you point your post on me

[FasTHarD]

Freddie also used the weight-issue.

And I never counted the victory over Oscar as a big deal with Floyd. I even said Oscar was past his prime. The only thing if there is anything about that match was that Oscar was bigger and stronger than Floyd at 154 pound division and came into the fight at 164+, or so people have said. That Oscar may have not been able to pull the trigger as Roach said, but he was still at a healthy weight and alive. There was still some hype left with Oscar becausee of the Mayorga KO. I've always said, Floyd's legacy is below 147.

Oh OK... Hmmmm There's something wrong in your post when i try to quote but NVM... bye..

[El Chicano]

I think we can all agree that it was a combination of the three, however, which of the three was the most determining factor in the result of the fight?

[DiegoFuego]

I think DLH losing the weight the wrong way led to him being shot and Pacquiao is a great fighter so a combination of all 3.

agreed with most of the emphasis on the weight problems