Who gave pacquiao a more convincing defeat? Marquez or Morales?

[goblin]

Just wondering... why do Floyd's fans (like the threadstarter here) needs to demean other fighters accomplishment to further Floyd's cause as the best fighter ever? I mean, isn't it a load of?

i think youre in the wrong forum lol...

[aether]

1. if jmm got the decisions[which he should have] u wouldnt have said that
2. that fight seems to be erased from all pacfans memory
3. the fact that u give manny credit for that is a joke
4. for the reasons why u responded in the first place
5. manny paquiao only fights past prime fighters

i rank pac way higher than pbf. how you like 'em apples?

[goblin]

i rank pac way higher than pbf. how you like 'em apples?

how dare u..eh its all good...i personally wouldnt even mention manny in the same breath as morales..if that version of erik kicked mannys ass and EVEN A WORSE VERSION was winning the 1st half of the fight when manny cried about his gloves, i can only imagine what an ABSOLUTE PRIME version of Morales would do to manny at 126 and 122..manny would literally leave the fight in a coffin....

[aether]

how dare u..eh its all good...i personally wouldnt even mention manny in the same breath as morales..if that version of erik kicked mannys ass and EVEN A WORSE VERSION was winning the 1st half of the fight when manny cried about his gloves, i can only imagine what an ABSOLUTE PRIME version of Morales would do to manny at 126 and 122..manny would literally leave the fight in a coffin....

your entitled to your own opinion. but i disagree with about 95% of what youve written on this thread.

[aether]

how dare u..eh its all good...i personally wouldnt even mention manny in the same breath as morales..if that version of erik kicked mannys ass and EVEN A WORSE VERSION was winning the 1st half of the fight when manny cried about his gloves, i can only imagine what an ABSOLUTE PRIME version of Morales would do to manny at 126 and 122..manny would literally leave the fight in a coffin....

the best excuse was the socks. i was laughing my ass off when i heard that

but i still like pac better than pbf...

[Jose Rizal]

excuse me.. theres ABSOLUTELY nothing impressive about getting your ass kicked by a weight drained morales using gloves as an excuse..then facing the same guy who this time is a skinny mummified version with no skin on his bones and then LOSING to that guy ON ALL THREE JUDGES SCORECARDS halfway through the fight..which means morales would kicked pacquiao's ass AGAIN if it wasnt for his gas tank..theres nothing impressive facing him a 3rd damn time but this time he's surrounded by specialists and nutritionists just to make the damn fight possible.. theres NOTHING impressive about getting two seperate asskickings from a 30yr old marquez and then a 34 year old marquez.. theres nothing impressive about beating a barerra in the middle of an erik trilogy and then facing him AGAIN but this he's there to collect a pay cheque..theres nothing impressive about fighting diaz who got a home town decision against a shot morales and theres NOT A DAMN THING IMPRESSIVE about beating a depleted hoya..manny's resume MAKES THE GOBLIN [representive of the goblin kingdom] SIMPLY ****EN LAUGH... manny is a joke

If Pacquiao was facing “the same guy” at the same weight only a year before that, and ruled the 130 division before he lost to Barrera… suddenly he’s a mummified version in the rematch? LOL!

Fights are judged by 12 rounds, it doesn’t matter if you were losing before the midpoint or they would’ve stopped the fight as being futile for Pacquiao, but the fact is Erik was leading by just a manageable 4 rounds to 2 by the halfway mark. He was leading but he was taking a lot of damage particularly to the body in the 1st 6 rounds. I’ve seen fighters overcome much bigger deficits than that. I’ve seen fighters losing all the rounds until they’ve managed to KO the other guy (Diaz-Sta. Cruz for example). That’s called HEART.

As for the so-called “ass kickings,” it wasn’t Pacquiao who had a habit of going spread-eagle on the canvas 4 times in those encounters. Marquez just can’t stay vertical with Pacquiao. In the 1st fight, Marquez got away with his belts thanks to a scoring error by one judge who admitted that mistake. Pacquiao got his 3rd lineal title in the 2nd fight.

The Diaz win isn’t much to rave about but he was champ in a division Pacquiao has never stepped in and he completely wiped him out. Almost nobody gave Pacquiao a shot better than an ice cub in hell against De la Hoya, because he was small and never ever been at 140, let alone 147, and now that he wiped him out as well, I personally would be ashamed to give any excuses for Oscar if I was debating against Pacquiao. I don’t want to look ******.

Finally about Barrera being in the middle of a Morales Trilogy... that’s just ridiculous. Barrera is a professional and he can’t be using that as a lame excuse especially when Pacquiao faced him twice, faced Morales thrice and Marquez twice (7 fights like you said). At least only Pacquiao had the balls to face Marquez when he was still Champ at 126.

[*Dinamita]

Marquez did.. morales just got the right judges and got the correct decision.

[Silencers]

The first Morales fight was the clearest fight that Pacquiao lost IMO.

[Chups]

The first Morales fight.

[Alibata]

right and when u add all those up u have 7 fights..from those 7 fights he has ONE win i give him credit for..the match with barrera who was in the middle of a erik trilogy..the credit manny gets from this is just plain silly..and yea i understand that youre trying to make a point and your point is certainly understood..absolutely..do u HONESTLY think that manny's wins deserve MORE credit then morales' and barrera's wins against those guys??? u know what..dont even answer that. he's a hyped up fool is what he is and his resume makes the goblin laugh..

Laugh away dreamer....hahahahaha... Join the chorus of the people in the real world laughing at you maybe we start singing your tune......NOT!!!!