Who gave pacquiao a more convincing defeat? Marquez or Morales?

[Jose Rizal]

Morales won a 2 point decision with a big cut on Pac's face. Pacquiao even dominated Morales many rounds also in the first fight. The rematch happened in a span within a year Pacquiao beat Marquez twice.

Yeah... Manny only lost by 1 round in a fight where his vision was impaired. Morales didn't beat a PRIME Pacquiao as well. I didn't hear anyone complaining about Morales being weight drained in that one either.

[goblin]

Barrera was the Ring Magazine Peoples People's Champ and widely regarded as at least top 3-5 pound-for-pound fighter back in 2003. He was the lineal featherweight champ and was the WBC champ before he trashed the belt. So I think Barrera was still in his heyday when he faced Pacquiao.

well like i said earlier that barrera fight is the fight i give manny credit for the most..

[Alibata]

is there a rule that, a fighter who's going to fight in 130lbs should not weight 140+ lbs on fight day?

In fantasy hater world there is... unless your Mexican... Mexicans have the advantage in goblin's fantasy... Whats your fantasy??? In mine Pacquiao demolishes Bernard Hopkins..

[Bushbaby]

Simply put,Morales actually got the win and we can all agree that he gave Pacman a boxing lesson in the 1st fight!!

[Alibata]

Simply put,Morales actually got the win and we can all agree that he gave Pacman a boxing lesson in the 1st fight!!

Real world talk....Is that allowed here?

[Jose Rizal]

well like i said earlier that barrera fight is the fight i give manny credit for the most..

That's fair. But you said Barrera wasn't in his heyday and that's why I brought that up.

If you won't give Pacquiao credit for beating "past prime" fighters, do you give Morales, Barrera and Marquez credit for the following wins:

Fighters/Age

Erik Morales

Carlos Hernandez 33
Jesus Chavez 32
Paulie Ayala 32
Gutty Espadas 29
Rodney Jones 30
Kevin Kelley 33
Wayne McCullough 29
Daniel Zaragoza Almost 40


Marco Antonio Barrera

Robbie Peden 32
Mzonke Fana 32
Paulie Ayala 34
Kevin Kelley Almost 36 just before Pac
Johnny Tapia Almost 36
Kennedy McKinney 30


Juan Manuel Marquez

Marco Barrera 33
Joel Casamayor 37
Victor Polo almost 35
Derrik Gainer 31
Manuel Medina 32

[Alibata]

sinong tatay mo?????!!!! Sinong tatay mo????!!!! Hahahahaha!!!!

[Alibata]

That's fair. But you said Barrera wasn't in his heyday and that's why I brought that up.

If you won't give Pacquiao credit for fighting "past prime" fighters, do you give Morales, Barrera and Marquez credit for the following wins:

Fighters/Age

Erik Morales

Carlos Hernandez 33
Jesus Chavez 32
Paulie Ayala 32
Gutty Espadas 29
Rodney Jones 30
Kevin Kelley 33
Wayne McCullough 29
Daniel Zaragoza Almost 40


Marco Antonio Barrera

Robbie Peden 32
Mzonke Fana 32
Paulie Ayala 34
Kevin Kelley Almost 36 just before Pac
Johnny Tapia Almost 36
Kennedy McKinney 30


Juan Manuel Marquez

Marco Barrera 33
Joel Casamayor 37
Victor Polo almost 35
Derrik Gainer 31
Manuel Medina 32

in playa hating world they do get credit cuz they Mexican. Pacquiao don't get credit in they world.

[Jose Rizal]

in playa hating world they do get credit cuz they Mexican. Pacquiao don't get credit in they world.

I thought he wanted FACTS?

[Addition]

read my first couple paragraphs and shut the **** up, chico....

My bad, my bad, i'm too lazy.