Who gave pacquiao a more convincing defeat? Marquez or Morales?

[Bonsi]

CONVINCING win over Pac? neither did. JMM draw (scoring error) and lost.

Morales EEKED out a UD over a smaller one eyed Pac bleeding profusely.

After that he made "El terrible" shake his head and do a "NO MAS"

[goblin]

I didn't think you would somehow.

So where is this question you asked? All I see is "Pacquiao looked like a clown, blah blah ****ing blah."

How is that asking a question? You only came on here to make a rant about Pacquiao. It backfired, and you didn't change a single opinion or make anyone think in the process. What exactly is your objective?

face it pal i got to ya didnt i?? the fact that were even having this conversation simply proves that..i didnt come here to rant about ANYTHING..i just asked a question and pacfans AGAIN are complaining.. seriously youre nothing more then just a wining little baby thats all..my OBJECTIVE here is too see who thought who won more convincingly and thats IT..nothing more then just that..and u hate that dont u?? i mean u really HATE that huh?
u hate the fact that i did this and not did a thread about how great manny is.. lemme explain something to u ok:

i am NOT like other 'pac haters'...Do u understand me? i DISLIKE manny cause of the fighters he chooses to fight..i dislike the fact that he blows up between 10 to 15lbs PER FIGHT over and over and over to fight feather weights for god sakes..and if does stay in the 130 division i want him to fight guzman, valero and other fighters who poses a threat and challenge.. i am someone who understands boxing and i understand REALITY..and reality is manny is an overblown, overhyped fool..THATS WHY i dislike manny. CAUSE HE DOES NOT FIGHT PROPER CHALLENGES!!! now...just because i did a thread about who beat his dumbass more convincingly doesnt mean its a "hate thread'..i asked a question and i got responses.. u simply WISH that i talked crap so u can point something out and crap on that but i havent and i WONT.. i know how to deal with some of manny's JACKASS FANS and that pisses u off doesnt? if i said something that wasnt true, etc i can ONLY IMAGINE how much some of u pacfans would bombard me with such hatred..i love this ****ing site its one of my favorites sites [if not #1] and will continue to make threads and make my opinions heard..

and if it means pissing manny's little fannies off then SO BE IT..i dont spew hate and i dont talk crap..EVERYTHING i say is an absolute fact and thats the bottom line..now if u have a problem with that then THATS JUST TOO BAD..i'll say it again..I KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO DEAL WITH MANNY'S LITTLE FANNIES and thats all there is to it..Now......i have one question for u: Who made manny HIS LITTLE ***** MORE?? Marquez or Morales??? Answer the ****en question goddamnit..

[AntDawg]

yea i guess u got me huh?? crap!...i got some nerve thinkin that both versions of barrera were PAST PRIME..that fighting a 30yr old and then
34yr old marquez were PAST PRIME..and ofcourse that ALL 3 VERSIONS of morales were PAST PRIME and fighting delahoya is also PAST PRIME..boy i should be ashamed of myself..how DARE i say manny only fights past prime fighters!!

Barrera in the first fight and marquez wern't past their primes.... Barrera was on the p4p list ffs lol. Wasn't Marquez a champion when they fought?

[lesterprettyboy]

and if it means pissing manny's little fannies off then SO BE IT..i dont spew hate and i dont talk crap..EVERYTHING i say is an absolute fact and thats the bottom line..now if u have a problem with that then THATS JUST TOO BAD..i'll say it again..I KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO DEAL WITH MANNY'S LITTLE FANNIES and thats all there is to it..Now......i have one question for u: Who made manny HIS LITTLE ***** MORE?? Marquez or Morales??? Answer the ****en question goddamnit..[/QUOTE]

Dude, you just contradicted yourself there.Title of the thread is "Who gave pacquiao a more convincing defeat?...The fact is..JMM never defeated PAC. People may argue, say the 2 wins were controversial. but the official, historical record(which we call FACT) is JMM has one draw and one loss against PAC.

[Dionyseus]

I had Pacquiao winning the Marquez rematch but even if you were to give that fight to Marquez you can't say it was "very convincing". You also forgot to mention that Pacquiao was weight-drained for that rematch.

[goblin]

Barrera in the first fight and marquez wern't past their primes.... Barrera was on the p4p list ffs lol. Wasn't Marquez a champion when they fought?

u know im not too sure but i dont think barrera was in his prime when he fought manny..infact i'll go as far as sayin that he and morales wasnt in their respective primes in their FIRST fight..obviously im gonna have to back that one up, now i dunno the EXACT numbers but i THINK it had to do with barrera's weight class.. where he did more damage to more quality fighters in certain weight classes before he fought erik the first time..again i THINK thats what it was. im not too sure. and i think that lampley even said before the first bell in barrera/morales1 "how much does barrera have left" or something to that effect..

yea marquez was champ when he fought manny however both erik and barrera and possibly others didnt fight marquez way back when..[although i think it was proven recently on this very site that erik infact DID challenge marquez back in morales' hey day but marquez declined] even with that said manny did fight marquez when he was pretty damn close to his prime[marquez] but manny sure as hell didnt come out with a convincing win..in either matches against marquez.

[goblin]

and if it means pissing manny's little fannies off then SO BE IT..i dont spew hate and i dont talk crap..EVERYTHING i say is an absolute fact and thats the bottom line..now if u have a problem with that then THATS JUST TOO BAD..i'll say it again..I KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO DEAL WITH MANNY'S LITTLE FANNIES and thats all there is to it..Now......i have one question for u: Who made manny HIS LITTLE ***** MORE?? Marquez or Morales??? Answer the ****en question goddamnit..

Dude, you just contradicted yourself there.Title of the thread is "Who gave pacquiao a more convincing defeat?...The fact is..JMM never defeated PAC. People may argue, say the 2 wins were controversial. but the official, historical record(which we call FACT) is JMM has one draw and one loss against PAC.[/QUOTE]

jesus christ u know what i mean man..way too nitpick seriously.

[felice]

i dislike the fact that he blows up between 10 to 15lbs PER FIGHT over and over and over to fight feather weights for god sakes..and if does stay in the 130 division i want him to fight guzman, valero and other fighters who poses a threat and challenge..

as far as I remember he fought at 135 and 147lbs.

i am someone who understands boxing and i understand REALITY..and reality is manny is an overblown, overhyped fool..

Reality? It is delusion.

[AntDawg]

u know im not too sure but i dont think barrera was in his prime when he fought manny..infact i'll go as far as sayin that he and morales wasnt in their respective primes in their FIRST fight..obviously im gonna have to back that one up, now i dunno the EXACT numbers but i THINK it had to do with barrera's weight class.. where he did more damage to more quality fighters in certain weight classes before he fought erik the first time..again i THINK thats what it was. im not too sure. and i think that lampley even said before the first bell in barrera/morales1 "how much does barrera have left" or something to that effect..

yea marquez was champ when he fought manny however both erik and barrera and possibly others didnt fight marquez way back when..[although i think it was proven recently on this very site that erik infact DID challenge marquez back in morales' hey day but marquez declined] even with that said manny did fight marquez when he was pretty damn close to his prime[marquez] but manny sure as hell didnt come out with a convincing win..in either matches against marquez.

Barrera did go on to win his next 6 fights after the first Pacquiao fight though. It may have not been convincing wins over Marquez but the fact is he has a draw(scorecard error) and a win is all that matters.

[goblin]

as far as I remember he fought at 135 and 147lbs.


Reality? It is delusion.

as i remember manny NEVER weight less then 140 since the 1st morales fight for a 130lb fight..if he's gonna do that the LEAST he can do is fight prime fighters for ****s sake..