Floyd Mayweather Jr. "I'll Beat Manny Pacquiao's Ass"

[Benny Leonard]

People thought Floyd could fight Pac without criticisms.

The thing is if Margarito beats Mosley and then Cotto in the rematch impressively, A lot of people will really pressure Floyd to fight Margarito but then again Floyd is a coward.

I'm with you except the last part. Floyd should fight Margarito but calling a fighter that is really a JrWW, showing up at 149 for a fight at 147 by fight time against a fighter that is a huge WW and shows up at MW by fight time isn't a cowardice act if he doesn't want to fight.

I was just against him saying he was the best at 147 and acting like he was the greatest in history without him fighting the best at 147.

It's kind of weird seeing "coward" after the name of a Champion caliber fighter.

[Benny Leonard]

i wouldn't really wanna see floyd fight pac if he's not in best form, just gives the nuthuggers or him excuses after. pacquiao is peaking right now and mayweather seems to be in decline, least he could do is a tune up

True, but if Floyd returns he should know what he risks.

I said if Floyd returns he better be at his best because if he isn't, he should stay retired.

In some way I'm still interested in the Margarito match. I think this is one of those fights that if Floyd has to grind out a win and shows heart he could get respect from the people...as long as he acts humble throughout. That's his chance.

For Pac: if Floyd loses it will hurt his legacy. Few will note where they thought Floyd was at in his career.
If he wins, which I would kind of feel bad about in a way, especially if Pac gets KO'd; Floyd might be hated. Pac losing might not be so bad if it was by decision. But if he was KTFO, especially by a guy like Floyd and his mouth...eh...the hate for Floyd may be out of control. Plus, Pac comes off as such a cool humble guy, loved by his people that seeing him knocked out at his best might be a sad thing.

In a way, if Floyd was knocked out by Margarito, I may feel bad for a split second knowing where Floyd was at in his career, but another side would say; you know what, he should have known where he was at in his career, should have stayed retired, and never taken up that "gangsta" role...start acting humble now.

[nujabes77]

5 Fights you say...probably. I would give him the Mitchell fight as his last great overall ability performance, but I could agree with you that Gatti may have been his last "peak" fight.

knowing that is what will impress me when he fights Margarito. I really want to see him grind it out.

The difficulty going into the Margarito fight would be one; His Hands...which even Oscar tried to take advantage of by making sure he wore "Reyes" gloves and not "Winning." One shot to Margarito's head could break his fragile little hands. Two: the way he has been fighting and I've talked about this a number of times so no real need to continue.

Against Margarito he stands maybe a 5% chance of stopping him by KO (exluding cuts which is a TKO). So, I want to see what he does and if he can bring back the younger version of himself.


With Pac: it will be a tough fight, no question, however: there is a better chance he can stop Pac or just counter him all night if he finds Pac's weakness. But in order to do that, he will still have to fight from round 1.

Margarito is the tougher match and he did say he was the "best" at 147 so I want him to prove it. Of course the money wouldn't be much compared....but whatever happened to "It's not about the money" or was that Floyd just on Sunday?

if floyd fights like they way he did with oscar, i dont think he would win at all. playing safe with margarito doesn't work. but if he decides to trust in his speed and his talent and be more agressive, then it's a different story


foyd vs. pacman is hard to tell man, they have unique styles and there's no certainty of the outcome, i dont get how most of the people here be can be so sure with their predictions. but as for now, i would give the edge to pacman for obvious reason, however if floyd gets a tune up fight and win convincingly, then its 50-50

[nujabes77]

True, but if Floyd returns he should know what he risks.

I said if Floyd returns he better be at his best because if he isn't, he should stay retired.

In some way I'm still interested in the Margarito match. I think this is one of those fights that if Floyd has to grind out a win and shows heart he could get respect from the people...as long as he acts humble throughout. That's his chance.

For Pac: if Floyd loses it will hurt his legacy. Few will note where they thought Floyd was at in his career.
If he wins, which I would kind of feel bad about in a way, especially if Pac gets KO'd; Floyd might be hated. Pac losing might not be so bad if it was by decision. But if he was KTFO, especially by a guy like Floyd and his mouth...eh...the hate for Floyd may be out of control. Plus, Pac comes off as such a cool humble guy, loved by his people that seeing him knocked out at his best might be a sad thing.

In a way, if Floyd was knocked out by Margarito, I may feel bad for a split second knowing where Floyd was at in his career, but another side would say; you know what, he should have known where he was at in his career, should have stayed retired, and never taken up that "gangsta" role...start acting humble now.

if pac loses, i would admit that floyd is the better boxer. i would be sad and may cry but you won't hear an excuse from me. but if pac wins, do you think the other party is going to admit that and not come up with excuses?

[Benny Leonard]

if floyd fights like they way he did with oscar, i dont think he would win at all. playing safe with margarito doesn't work. but if he decides to trust in his speed and his talent and be more agressive, then it's a different story


foyd vs. pacman is hard to tell man, they have unique styles and there's no certainty of the outcome, i dont get how most of the people here be can be so sure with their predictions. but as for now, i would give the edge to pacman for obvious reason, however if floyd gets a tune up fight and win convincingly, then its 50-50

Both fights, Pac and Margarito, would interest me because in order to beat them he has to fight like he used to a few years back. I am curious to see if he can bring it back since I have questions if he can. I'm not sure if it is because of his hands, the weight increase, age, mental status which would go along with being an even more cautious fighter for his "kids" as well as the possibility he is afraid to lose his "O."

His best way of fighting is the way he fought up to 140...specifically his lightweight days.

I do think he may be able to get away with not being at his absolute peak best against Pac because of how skilled he is with his timing and accuracy...but would that work against Margarito? Kind of doubt it. He needs to move, use angles, use his jab, and throw combos...

I'm not sure if Floyd can beat either fighter let alone both given his current position.
The Floyd that fought Hatton I would actually still favor slightly against Pac. The reason I say slightly is because fighting that way, Floyd could misjudge when to turn on the gas and the fight could slip away, example: Hopkins vs. Taylor (I). When Floyd let his hands go against both Oscar and Hatton, he was clearly winning and impressive.

Speaking of Hopkins and Floyd, I wonder if they are alike more than just the decline of pace through the fight. Floyd, like Hopkins, may have such an inflated Ego that they think they deserve to win just for showing up. If it goes to the judges, they may think they deserve to win because they are who they are. That's the difference between the young versions of themselves and the later versions. I figured Hopkins started to pace himself because of his hands...Floyd, like I listed above, not sure which ones or maybe if it is all: age, hands, more caution, etc.

[Benny Leonard]

if pac loses, i would admit that floyd is the better boxer. i would be sad and may cry but you won't hear an excuse from me. but if pac wins, do you think the other party is going to admit that and not come up with excuses?

Not sure. Either way, it is still a feat to beat Floyd even at his current status.

One thing is to note: I hope Floyd doesn't give into Freddie Roach's demands. If he does, yes, that is when the dogs are going to come out and I would even come out with that one. Freddie wants to win fights to much on the scales and it is not something I feel an "honorable" man should be doing. I know Freddie is just trying to get as much advantage for his fighter as possible like he says, but come on...fight a fight as fair as possible. This is a sport after all.

If Floyd wins and fights boring against either fighter...eh...that would suck.
I really don't enjoy watching him fight this way. I feel ripped off after the fight.
I know some call it "smart" fighting but come on...I want to see a fight.

But hey, I will look forward to the 24/7 episodes

[Flawless.]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea boy


pretty floyd is back

[nujabes77]

Both fights, Pac and Margarito, would interest me because in order to beat them he has to fight like he used to a few years back. I am curious to see if he can bring it back since I have questions if he can. I'm not sure if it is because of his hands, the weight increase, age, mental status which would go along with being an even more cautious fighter for his "kids" as well as the possibility he is afraid to lose his "O."

His best way of fighting is the way he fought up to 140...specifically his lightweight days.

I do think he may be able to get away with not being at his absolute peak best against Pac because of how skilled he is with his timing and accuracy...but would that work against Margarito? Kind of doubt it. He needs to move, use angles, use his jab, and throw combos...

I'm not sure if Floyd can beat either fighter let alone both given his current position.
The Floyd that fought Hatton I would actually still favor slightly against Pac. The reason I say slightly is because fighting that way, Floyd could misjudge when to turn on the gas and the fight could slip away, example: Hopkins vs. Taylor (I). When Floyd let his hands go against both Oscar and Hatton, he was clearly winning and impressive.

Speaking of Hopkins and Floyd, I wonder if they are alike more than just the decline of pace through the fight. Floyd, like Hopkins, may have such an inflated Ego that they think they deserve to win just for showing up. If it goes to the judges, they may think they deserve to win because they are who they are. That's the difference between the young versions of themselves and the later versions. I figured Hopkins started to pace himself because of his hands...Floyd, like I listed above, not sure which ones or maybe if it is all: age, hands, more caution, etc.

that's the problem with floyd right now, he relies to much with his counter punch. it's a brilliant skill but alone i dont think it would beat pacman or margarito. both fighters have impressive chins. watch the jmm vs. pacman, you can clearly see that pac can take flush counterpunches. margarito, haha i dont even have to say anything

all i'm trying to say is that mayweather has to box like the way he use to and not rely on his counterpunches as much. you see pacman and margarito would want to fight the mayweather now since he's going to be predictable. pbf is best, when he is agressive and takes risk

[hugh grant]

Yes that is what we want to hear from PBf. Fighting talk showing there is life in this old fighter yet and we havent seen the last of him.
Lets see him against Pac and see him do his ass.

[nujabes77]

Not sure. Either way, it is still a feat to beat Floyd even at his current status.

One thing is to note: I hope Floyd doesn't give into Freddie Roach's demands. If he does, yes, that is when the dogs are going to come out and I would even come out with that one. Freddie wants to win fights to much on the scales and it is not something I feel an "honorable" man should be doing. I know Freddie is just trying to get as much advantage for his fighter as possible like he says, but come on...fight a fight as fair as possible. This is a sport after all.

If Floyd wins and fights boring against either fighter...eh...that would suck.
I really don't enjoy watching him fight this way. I feel ripped off after the fight.
I know some call it "smart" fighting but come on...I want to see a fight.

But hey, I will look forward to the 24/7 episodes

fight should be at 140 considering both are best fighting at around 147(fight night). pac did 147 just to accomodate the match with de la hoya but is at his best at 140

fighting 'smart' like his last 5 matches is going to cost him againts these guys. they are surely going to pick up on the predictability in his game and could devise a solution easily, you gotta note pacman has a massive experience from fighting a counter puncher(jmm is the best counter puncher right now, even better than pbf imo). hatton lost to mayweather because he's got poor head movement, he comes forward not like pac where he comes forward behind punches and have a consistent head movement. in margarito's case, you gotta do more than counter for his chin to fall, otherwise he wore's him out and get ko in the later rounds