Sameday weigh in's and Margarito. Why you are wrong!!!!

[Benny Leonard]

It caused fighters to be lethargic in the ring and put them in harms way becasue they couldn't perform at full strength. It also discouraged lots of big fights and that made the federation boring.

Come in healthy; fight at a healthy weight.

If you want to fight some guy two divisions heavier then you, go old school like Langford and the boys did. Just Make The Fight without divisions. Name vs. Name not Weight vs. Weight.

Every discussion like this makes me appreciate Chris Byrd more and many of the Old timers.

[pistol whip]

No, I want a fighter to eat and show up healthy to fight and stop trying to make a weight he shouldn't be fighting at.

So, if I'm at a fight-time weight of say, 147; I'm fighting as a welterweight. If you want to cut further even though you will be unhealthy; that's your risk.

For millions of dollars fighters will ignore sanity and this is common knowledge. Just like old fighters who continue to fight wayyyyyyyy past their primes fighters will continue to cut weight to get big fights. A responsiable sport sometimes has to protect fighters from themselves.

[pistol whip]

Come in healthy; fight at a healthy weight.

If you want to fight some guy two divisions heavier then you, go old school like Langford and the boys did. Just Make The Fight without divisions. Name vs. Name not Weight vs. Weight.

And who's gonna sanction that? Come on be realistic we don't live in fairytale land.

[Benny Leonard]

For millions of dollars fighters will ignore sanity and this is common knowledge. Just like old fighters who continue to fight wayyyyyyyy past their primes fighters will continue to cut weight to get big fights. A responsiable sport sometimes has to protect fighters from themselves.

Do you see what you are talking about?

These guys are "FIGHTERS"; they are the minority already because they are beating the **** out of each other for MONEY.

It's their job to train and get in shape and it's their job to show up healthy.

If they lose because they were weight-drained they will learn and hopefully others will learn from them..and if they don't, well, it's on them.

[Joeyzagz]

And if fighters are dying, whose fault is it really?

It's the fighters for trying to fight in a division they shouldn't be fighting at.

Case Closed

[pistol whip]

Ah, what are we talking about now? Weight issue or fighters getting hit in the face and the body?

It's the fightesr job to fight at a healthy weight; bottom line.

No it's both their job and the Boxing commissions job
and again sometimes the boxing commission has to step in and protect fighter from themselves the end.

[Benny Leonard]

And who's gonna sanction that? Come on be realistic we don't live in fairytale land.

Ah, they sanctioned Roy vs. Ruiz

They sanctioned Holyfield vs. Valuev.

They sanctioned Byrd vs. the HWs. Byrd had to use weights in his pockets.

[pistol whip]

Case Closed

Wrong!!!!!

Millions of dollars and contract agreements are at stake. They shouldn't have to risk all that because certin fan's of a certin fighters have excuses why their number 1 guy lost.

[Benny Leonard]

No it's both their job and the Boxing commissions job
and again sometimes the boxing commission has to step in and protect fighter from themselves the end.

So you are telling me it's fair for one fighter who fights at 147 who shows up at 149 by fight time to fight someone that is 147 weigh-in but shows up at 160+ by fight time?
How is that sanctioned? You now have a WW vs. MM

[pistol whip]

Ah, they sanctioned Roy vs. Ruiz

They sanctioned Holyfield vs. Valuev.

They sanctioned Byrd vs. the HWs. Byrd had to use weights in his pockets.

And they fought at heavyweight where you can come in as heavy as you want. That was the worst example that you could have used.