Sameday weigh in's and Margarito. Why you are wrong!!!!

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  • Benny Leonard
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    #11
    Originally posted by pistol whip
    Yeah because money has nothing to do with anything. Seriously do you think that every weight division is lucrative for fighters? When it comes to Millions of dollars it's not gonna stop anything just like it didn't stop fighters in the 60's 70's ad early 80's who died in the ring.


    Logic my friend!!! You should try using it!!!
    So let them die. Fighters die anyway, healthy or not. Some fighters still show up weight-drained and are seriously hurt. The Oscar fight is a perfect example. He got what he deserved too.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
      What about +1 to 5 pound cap? Say the fight is at 147...you can have up to +1 to 5 pounds allowed by fight time. This way, you don't have to cancel the fight, however, maybe there can be some penalty.


      And if fighters are dying, whose fault is it really?

      It's the fighters for trying to fight in a division they shouldn't be fighting at.
      Ok so now you want a fighter to fight hungry which again puts the fighter at risk!!

      you still forget the money equation in the whole thing so every thing about your argument is completely unrealistic. 5 pounds is 90% water weight and I yet to see when day before weigh in's has caused even one death in the ring.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Benny Leonard
        What about +1 to 5 pound cap? Say the fight is at 147...you can have up to +1 to 5 pounds allowed by fight time. This way, you don't have to cancel the fight, however, maybe there can be some penalty.


        And if fighters are dying, whose fault is it really?

        It's the fighters for trying to fight in a division they shouldn't be fighting at.
        The IBF had a similar rule before where a fighter couldn't gain over 10 pounds after the weigh in, I don't know why they changed it.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          So let them die. Fighters die anyway, healthy or not. Some fighters still show up weight-drained and are seriously hurt. The Oscar fight is a perfect example. He got what he deserved too.


          Thank you for proving my point that some of you Maragarito haters are disgusting selfish people that have no way of putting together rational thought when it comes to boxing.

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            #15
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            Ok so now you want a fighter to fight hungry which again puts the fighter at risk!!

            you still forget the money equation in the whole thing so every thing about your argument is completely unrealistic. 5 pounds is 90% water weight and I yet to see when day before weigh in's has caused even one death in the ring.
            No, I want a fighter to eat and show up healthy to fight and stop trying to make a weight he shouldn't be fighting at.

            So, if I'm at a fight-time weight of say, 147; I'm fighting as a welterweight. If you want to cut further even though you will be unhealthy; that's your risk.

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              #16
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              Thank you for proving my point that some of you Maragarito haters are disgusting selfish people that have no way of putting together rational thought when it comes to boxing.
              WTF? I'm actually a fan of Margarito and called Floyd a ***** for not fighting him. The only thing I can say bad about the guy is that he acted a bit like a ***** after his loss to Williams, but emotions get in the way of thoughts; i understand that.

              If everybody else was fighting at their "natural" weight; I'm sure Margarito would too...but since you have fighters like Williams in the same division, Margarito is on fair ground/following what others do.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Silencers
                The IBF had a similar rule before where a fighter couldn't gain over 10 pounds after the weigh in, I don't know why they changed it.
                It caused fighters to be lethargic in the ring and put them in harms way becasue they couldn't perform at full strength. It also discouraged lots of big fights and that made the federation boring.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  WTF? I'm actually a fan of Margarito and called Floyd a ***** for not fighting him. The only thing I can say bad about the guy is that he acted a bit like a ***** after his loss to Williams, but emotions get in the way of thoughts; i understand that.

                  If everybody else was fighting at their "natural" weight; I'm sure Margarito would too...but since you have fighters like Williams in the same division, Margarito is on fair ground/following what others do.
                  That still doesn't excuse you for ignoring the risk fighters take in the ring.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    The IBF had a similar rule before where a fighter couldn't gain over 10 pounds after the weigh in, I don't know why they changed it.
                    Doesn't someone still have that which includes same day weigh-in at 12 NOON or something like that?

                    I think they did it for Tszyu vs. Hatton...no?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      That still doesn't excuse you for ignoring the risk fighters take in the ring.
                      Ah, what are we talking about now? Weight issue or fighters getting hit in the face and the body?

                      It's the fightesr job to fight at a healthy weight; bottom line.

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