Zag's ain't a *****. But Dawson would beat him...

[AndyShitHot]

Yeah but Calzaghe wasn't fighting Adamek, he fought Jones who had not won a big fight in years and going into that fight, everyone knew what would happen. My point was that Johnson and Tarver( Dawson's last two opponents) has already beaten Jones, and people criticize Dawson for fighting 40 year old even though they were still at the top of their divisions. I am just not a fan of double standards.

The only reason people say about Dawson taking on older fighters is because others criticise Joe for taking on Hopkins and Jones and considering there is more of a difference between Dawson and Johnson/Tarver than there is between Calzaghe and Hopkins/Jones then I don't understand how Joe haters use that as an arguement.

It's also similar to how you were just saying Joe only beat Roy who's been KO'd by both Dawson and Tarver. I could also say Hopkins beat both Tarver and Johnson quite easily. It's all just tit for tat.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Let's also not mention that Tarver is past his best now, whereas when he fought Jones...

Do you see where this is going?

This is just fanboy talking/whining. Direct it at someone else.

And this is just a counter FROM a fan boy that doesn't look at what is right in front of him. Joe doesn't want to fight Dawson and says that he is not big enough, so is Kessler more proven than Dawson or a better fighter? YOU might say he is, but many will disagree. Dawson has clearly beaten better fighters than Kessler has is more known.

I won't come on here lying and saying stuff that i don't believe, i just tell it like it is but i try my best to be reasonable about it. I don't think Calzaghe wants to take a chance against Dawson and i do think Dawson would beat him. However, that does not mean I'm a Calzaghe hater. I have been rooting for him ever since he beat Lacy( except in the Hopkins fight).

Lets also not forget that Tarver just beat( and dominated) Clinton Woods for the IBF/IBO light heavyweight title so clearly he had something. Hopkins was a great win for Calzaghe, but Jones was not at the time. Tell me when his last significant win was? Trinidad?

[Patty Tanager]

Pea, you didn't think this through.

[Porter's Dad]

It's also similar to how you were just saying Joe only beat Roy who's been KO'd by both Dawson and Tarver. I could also say Hopkins beat both Tarver and Johnson quite easily. It's all just tit for tat.

What does Hopkins beating Johnson and Tarver prove about Dawson?

Dawson beating the two who Roy got KTFO by proves Dawson was and is "worthy" (I hate that ****ing term but apparently nowadays you need to be it) of fighting Slappy, which his fans claim don't.

[Clegg]

And this is just a counter FROM a fan boy

Excuse me? Provide some evidence of this.

that doesn't look at what is right in front of him.

What is this in reference to?

Joe doesn't want to fight Dawson and says that he is not big enough, so is Kessler more proven than Dawson or a better fighter? YOU might say he is...

I've not said this. This is irrelevant. As is most of the rest of your post. You have failed to understand my point.

My point is not 'who has the better resume, Dawson or Kessler?'. My point is not a comparison between Tarver+Johnson and Hopkins+Jones. My point is not what Calzaghe thinks or intends to do.

My point is that your aim here is to defend one person while criticising the other, rather than attempting a balanced viewpoint.

Accusing me of showing bias or holding viewpoints that I do not hold is not just incorrect, it's utterly irrelevant.

Now, explain how I have been a fanboy or 'denied what is right in front of my eyes'.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Excuse me? Provide some evidence of this.



What is this in reference to?

Quotes from you. ''Lets not mention Hopkins beat Dawson's last two opponents''. ''Lets not mention Tarver was past his prime when Dawson's beat him unlike he was in the Jones fight.''. Its just laughable how you attempt to cover your obvious bias for Calzaghe by saying ''i like both of these fighters''. Again, i don't spew out stuff that i don't believe, and i believe that Calzaghe would not fight Dawson even if '' the money is right'' because posses too much of a challenge. Its just my opinion and nothing will change that. I always back Calzaghe but Dawson has been calling him out even before the Kessler fight and not one time did he mention his name.

[Clegg]

Quotes from you. ''Lets not mention Hopkins beat Dawson's last two opponents''. ''Lets not mention Tarver was past his prime when Dawson's beat him unlike he was in the Jones fight.''. Its just laughable how you attempt to cover your obvious bias for Calzaghe by saying ''i like both of these fighters''.

The reason I said those things was to show that for every point, there is a counter-point, and it's worth weighing them up. Calling someone a fanboy and biased based upon that is wrong IMO. And I genuinely do like Dawson.

Here are some more quotes from me if you doubt it:

I think Dawson is the best fighter out there that Calzaghe hasn't fought. I would pick Chad to beat him to be honest.

If he does choose to fight on, I hope Dawson is his choice of opponent.

I'm not sure how much Dawson would benefit Joe's legacy, but obviously it would improve it. I think Dawson will go on to great things, so it may even turn out to be Calzaghe's best win if he can pull it off.

Mendoza was a late replacement, so you can't blame him for that. Dawson has shown a lot of ambition in fighting Johnson and Tarver.

Neither fight was necessary, the fact is that he chose to fight the best possible opponent in his last two fights.

Well I think it's more important to look at what boxers have done recently when it comes to looking at how ambitious they are. Recently, Dawson has shown much more ambition than Kessler.

IMO Dawson has shown that he wants hard fights against big names. Kessler has not.

I was really impressed with Chad last night.

I would give him the edge over Calzaghe, to be honest. Bigger, stronger, a good defense, a varied offense that includes combinations to both head and body, fast hands, good power etc.

I thought that Dawson would have problems with Tarver, because Tarver has good timing and power, and is a big light-heavyweight, but he put on a great performance, and looked comfortable doing it.

Maybe Calzaghe outsmarts him like he did Kessler, but Tarver is a smart, skillful fighter, but he couldn't show it last night because Dawson didn't let him. I think Dawson would beat Hopkins, Calzaghe and Pavlik.

[daggum]

who is this calzaghe guy and why would dawson fight him

[Xplosivo]

"Nnnnggggh! ... where am I?"

Chad ain't gonna do **** to Calzaghe.

[RichCCFC]

I like Chad and all but he isn't ready for someone like Calzaghe.

He wont be able to stand up to his constant pressure.