Is Floyd Mayweather jr an ATG?

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He never ruled a long time over a division or won belts from the best guys at all of his weight classes, hes great I admit it but he doesnt have one thing that says WOW I'll even cionsider Baldomir the best when he beat him but MAyweather is leagues ahead of Baldo in skill and it didnt show in the fight boring ass decision win I dont have a problem with a UD but make it interesting

To name a couple of all time greats of your book.

Leonard fought old people (duran, hearns) instead of 160 division full of rising stars (mc callum, nunn, kalambay -benn and eubank more of a stretch). and 'retired' to not rematch hagler -most incredible move ever-

Roy Jones, criticized for his opposition like crazy, never fought the man who should have had ALL his belts if not for sanctioning bodies bull**** (DM)

And mind... Jones are Leonard are greats in my book too.

Oscar, Toney, Hopkins, I would also have something to say about, but for different reasons....

(I noticed you put a note about Calzaghe, so I am not going to pick on calzaghe)

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He never ruled a long time over a division or won belts from the best guys at all of his weight classes, hes great I admit it but he doesnt have one thing that says WOW I'll even cionsider Baldomir the best when he beat him but MAyweather is leagues ahead of Baldo in skill and it didnt show in the fight boring ass decision win I dont have a problem with a UD but make it interesting

I think his ruling of 130 was pretty clear... how longer did you want him to stay there? and what for?

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He could have did what Clazaghe did when he knew he couldnt beat the best at 175 stay and beat nobodies but rule forever then beat up Cotto and them when they were older and not quite as good but still good. Im not saying they wanted him at 140 but if they didnt he shouldnt have jumped to 147 unless he was intent on fighting the best

OK, not so clear he should have stayed at 140 when nobody was there IMO.

I definitely agree than fighting at 47 and 54 deprived of the potential action in his fights, not so much ruined his legacy... and the reason -sadly- is called
O$car

[Left Hook Tua]

Don't ever get me twisted with those guys, Tua. You know me better then that, son.

of course not.

you know who i'm talking about.......

[Sonic Flood]

Hell no.. He ducked everyone at the Welterweight and never fought a threat.

Floyd is a joke and never will be an ATG.. He should stay retired because no cares about him.

[Owlzfan84]

He's great and easily a hall of famer. but an all time great...thats really really elite. The thing is he has the tools to be that, but what hurts him is that he never takes risks whether that be in the ring or picking opponents. I dont feel like he's fully been tested.

[AKATheMack]

To name a couple of all time greats of your book.

Leonard fought old people (duran, hearns) instead of 160 division full of rising stars (mc callum, nunn, kalambay -benn and eubank more of a stretch). and 'retired' to not rematch hagler -most incredible move ever-

Roy Jones, criticized for his opposition like crazy, never fought the man who should have had ALL his belts if not for sanctioning bodies bull**** (DM)

And mind... Jones are Leonard are greats in my book too.

Oscar, Toney, Hopkins, I would also have something to say about, but for different reasons....

(I noticed you put a note about Calzaghe, so I am not going to pick on calzaghe)

Leonard beat a prime Tommy Hearns that alone should seal the deal and I dont blame him for not rematching Hagler lightining doesnt strike twice they say and SRL is my best WW not MW but he beat a legit badass MW

Jones beat Hopkins and Toney *** all the weight drained and green bull**** he beat em and his one round KO of Griffin was priceless

I give it Oscar just for the fact he fought everyone at every weight class but not as talented as Mayweather but like I said I base ATGs on more than potential and Im kinda second guessing myself about DLH to tell the truth

Toney at SMW is a beast and his fight with Jirov is one of my all time favs and he has skills just no work ethic but hes willing to fight the best fat or not.

Hopkins ruled forever at MW and was undefeated forever then to beat Pavlik like that I give it to him personally I hate the man but his win over Pavlik while not surprising that he beat him but that he beat the **** out of him

[ACHlLLES]

He's great and easily a hall of famer. but an all time great...thats really really elite. The thing is he has the tools to be that, but what hurts him is that he never takes risks whether that be in the ring or picking opponents. I dont feel like he's fully been tested.

I don't think theres an undefeated fighter who is considered an atg...
That is a hard thing to accomplish.

[AKATheMack]

He's great and easily a hall of famer. but an all time great...thats really really elite. The thing is he has the tools to be that, but what hurts him is that he never takes risks whether that be in the ring or picking opponents. I dont feel like he's fully been tested.

Basically what I said and they got in my ass watch out.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Yes he is....but in the 50-75 range just like DLH.