Can boxing compete with UFC 92?

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  • mrpain81
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    #51
    Originally posted by Tony Jones
    Things aint lookin so hot for boxing right now PPV wise it has to be said:

    Top 10 North American PPV buy rates, 2008

    1. Boxing: Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao, Dec. 6, PPV #: 1,250,000
    2. UFC: Brock Lesnar vs. Randy Couture, Nov. 15, PPV #: 1,010,000
    3. Wrestling: WrestleMania, Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Paul “Big Show” Wight, March 30, PPV #: 670,000
    4. UFC: Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch/Lesnar vs. Heath Herring, Aug. 9, PPV #: 625,000
    5. UFC: Lesnar vs. Frank Mir, Feb. 2, PPV #: 600,000
    6. UFC: Quinton Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin, July 5, PPV #: 540,000
    7. UFC: St. Pierre vs. Matt Serra, April 19, PPV #: 530,000
    8. Boxing: Felix Trinidad vs. Roy Jones Jr., Jan. 19, PPV #: 500,000
    9. UFC: Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans, Sept. 6, PPV #: 480,000
    10. UFC: B.J. Penn vs. Sean Sherk/Tito Ortiz vs. Lyoto Machida, May 24, PPV #: 475,000
    (Source) http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Benz/Benz_121308.htm
    Why would this be bad for boxing??

    WWF sold more PPV then boxing a bunch of years that didn't mean it was bad for boxing, MMA and Boxing only have about 4% cross over fans who buy both the PPVs.

    If anything what those numbers say is Brock Lesnar is bringing in big PPV numbers because he was a pro rassler and his fights are freak show spectacles. There is a reason he got a title shot after going 1-1 in the UFC.

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    • johnkraus
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      #52
      Originally posted by 5burowz
      UFC is dying a slow death. It won't be around much longer.
      I don't agree with this, its defiantly not growing at the same rate as it was a year or two ago, but it is still growing.

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      • Tony Jones
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        #53
        Originally posted by mrpain81
        Why would this be bad for boxing??

        WWF sold more PPV then boxing a bunch of years that didn't mean it was bad for boxing, MMA and Boxing only have about 4% cross over fans who buy both the PPVs.

        If anything what those numbers say is Brock Lesnar is bringing in big PPV numbers because he was a pro rassler and his fights are freak show spectacles. There is a reason he got a title shot after going 1-1 in the UFC.
        It may not be 'bad' but it sure aint good lol And i dont see wrestling as being in the same boat really.

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        • squealpiggy
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          #54
          Originally posted by Soda Popinski
          And that ended up being one of the best PPV events the UFC has ever put on, in terms of numbers for the company and action for the fans who got to see EVERY single fight on the card, only one of which went to a decision. What's your point??
          My point is that it's easy to have three main event title fights on one card if your main event title fights are of this calibre.

          The headline fight for UFC 92 is like pitting Sergio Mora against Sakio Bika.

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          • Testdead
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            #55
            I wish boxing would put on better PPVs and have more shared main events.

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            • Soda Popinski
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              #56
              Originally posted by squealpiggy
              My point is that it's easy to have three main event title fights on one card if your main event title fights are of this calibre.

              The headline fight for UFC 92 is like pitting Sergio Mora against Sakio Bika.
              I don't even know where to start with this one. UFC 92 is regarded by most MMA fans as one of the most talent rich cards the UFC has ever put together, therefore I'm just going to conclude from that statement that you have no idea WTF you're talking about. If you knew anything about MMA before Brock Lesnar, then you'd know who Wanderlei Silva and Minotauro Nogueira are. Same with Rampage for that matter. Do a little research, look up something called Pride Fighting Championships and learn about those guys, then get back to me.

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              • mrpain81
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                #57
                Originally posted by Tony Jones
                It may not be 'bad' but it sure aint good lol And i dont see wrestling as being in the same boat really.
                Rassling has much more to do with MMGay then Boxing, those numbers make it look like the UFC dominated the PPV numbers when in fact the numbers were close and Boxing sold more last year.

                HBO PPV had 8 events averaging 460-480k per event

                UFC will have 12 events with the average being from 480-500k per event, lets not forget that 1 million for UFC 91 isn't a fact.


                Meanwhile according to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the UFC’s internal discussions indicate that UFC 91 drew 1,010,000 buys. The company is reportedly hoping that late buys will push the event to an all-time company record number of buys. The current mark is 1,050,000 set by UFC 66. However, Dave Meltzer cautions that the number is not yet official and recalls similar reports out of the company following UFC 71. That event ultimately posted 675,000 buys.

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                • johnkraus
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                  #58
                  Boxing will do just fine. Don't forget, we all know boxing will have a superstar 10 years down the line with Lehkai Mayweather (Roger's kid). Until then, Khan and Haye will carry it in the UK, Versus is doing a lot of good for the sport, maybe Deontay Wilder will be something big, hopefully Pavlik will get back on track.

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                  • hotshoes
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                    #59
                    mma is just a new flavor that you eventually come to hate as you taste more of it

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                    • SalSanchez
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Soda Popinski
                      I don't even know where to start with this one. UFC 92 is regarded by most MMA fans as one of the most talent rich cards the UFC has ever put together, therefore I'm just going to conclude from that statement that you have no idea WTF you're talking about. If you knew anything about MMA before Brock Lesnar, then you'd know who Wanderlei Silva and Minotauro Nogueira are. Same with Rampage for that matter. Do a little research, look up something called Pride Fighting Championships and learn about those guys, then get back to me.
                      LOL who cares about wandy the guy is shot as hell.Nog is going to submit Mir next is that guy who has a **** in his chest

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