Freddie Roach Talks About DLH-Pacquiao

[Benny Leonard]

yeah because floyd never left a division with fighters like spadafora and kostya in it......

Tszyu lost to Hatton...but good try.

Spady went to jail.

It didn't help Spady that he had a draw against Dorin. Can we remember which fighter blew Dorin out of the Water? GATTI.

[Left Hook Tua]

Tszyu lost to Hatton...but good try.

Spady went to jail.

thank god judah never lost. or else floyd will never have fought him.

excuses.....

no point in fighting cotto at 147.....he lost to marg.

no point in fighting marg at 147......he lost to williams.

no point in fighting williams at 147......he lost to quintana.

i'm the greatest 147 fighter of all time!!!!! yippee

[Benny Leonard]

Boxing handicappers are the oddsmakers.


Smartest people in sports. Period.

So Atlas would be one?

He did call it exactly the way I said above?

I posted that we shouldn't be surprised if Oscar shows up flat...and I gave my examples with Tszyu vs. Hatton.

I said Oscar should be favored, but, the above statement applied.

After the weigh-in...Atlas mentioned/wondered the same thing.


What were the odds makers saying or were they just handing out odds?
Numbers don't tell the whole story of thought, so I wonder what the odds were and their reason behind it.


Inside information is always the best information...which is what Freddy had and Freddy planned...which is why the fight was at 147. Freddie knows history.

What were the odds by fight time?

[Benny Leonard]

thank god judah never lost. or else floyd will never have fought him.

excuses.....

no point in fighting cotto at 147.....he lost to marg.

no point in fighting marg at 147......he lost to williams.

no point in fighting williams at 147......he lost to quintana.

i'm the greatest 147 fighter of all time!!!!! yippee

He fought Diego when he was the George Foreman of the lightweights and undefeated. Floyd ruined him in that fight. How many times did Diego go down?

Luckily, Morales and Barrera went to war with each other twice and took each other apart or Freddie would have never allowed Manny to get in there. I guess they over-looked that a past prime fighter can still have a decent fight, which is why Manny lost a UD against Morales. And smart move by Freddie in making Morales fight at their weight instead of understanding Morales's concern that he could no longer make weight and he would be healthy. Good job Freddie.


I ripped on Floyd's legacy at 147, so I don't know what you are getting at.

Tell me again, why did Manny fight David Diaz at 135 and not the better fighters in the division?

[Pullcounter]

Roach wants a catch-weight?
Yeah, Roach is real confident

Catch-weight?

Even though Pac just fought Oscar at 147?

Even though both fighters weigh 149 by fight time.

You have no logic.

neither floyd nor pac are real welterweights anyways. most welterweight balloon up to 154+ lbs.

the fact that both floyd and pac only weigh around 149 on fight night proves that both pac and floyd can make 140 comfortably.

you fail.

Floyd has all the leverage and he can show it if he wants. All he has to do is say to the public: If Pac wants to fight me, I'll fight him at the same weight he met Oscar at...147. And explain the reasoning I mentioned. If not, you lose for backing down.

Who do you think the Fans will be pissed at?

the fans will be pissed at floyd because they like being pissed at floyd. you fail again.

[Pullcounter]

Tell me again, why did Manny fight David Diaz at 135 and not the better fighters in the division?

cuz they were setting up bigger fights.... you know, like when floyd fought judah instead of cotto or money marg.

[Left Hook Tua]

He fought Diego when he was the George Foreman of the lightweights and undefeated. Floyd ruined him in that fight. How many times did Diego go down?

Luckily, Morales and Barrera went to war with each other twice and took each other apart or Freddie would have never allowed Manny to get in there. I guess they over-looked that a past prime fighter can still have a decent fight, which is why Manny lost a UD against Morales. And smart move by Freddie in making Morales fight at their weight instead of understanding Morales's concern that he could no longer make weight and he would be healthy. Good job Freddie.


I ripped on Floyd's legacy at 147, so I don't know what you are getting at.

Tell me again, why did Manny fight David Diaz at 135 and not the better fighters in the division?

sharmba mitchell.

[Benny Leonard]

neither floyd nor pac are real welterweights anyways. most welterweight balloon up to 154+ lbs.

the fact that both floyd and pac only weigh around 149 on fight night proves that both pac and floyd can make 140 comfortably.

you fail.




the fans will be pissed at floyd because they like being pissed at floyd. you fail again.

no, my logic is right on. Fighters should be fighting at their "Fight Time" weight...that's there weight-class.

Fighters shouldn't have to dehydrate themselves to make a weight that they will not be fighting at.

It is a billed a "140" pound fight. But when I look at the fighter's weight come fight time...I'm looking for those 140 pound fighters.


If both weigh 149, like you say, you can make the fight at 147 between those two so they don't have to dehydrate to make 140.

It's more about those two than any other fighter in the 147 pound division.

[BlackHat]

Why did Pac- DLH was in 147 when DLH can make 140

[Benny Leonard]

sharmba mitchell.

Mitchell was set on Tszyu...this is well known. When Mitchell moved up to 147, Floyd fought him...and I ripped on Floyd for fighting Tszyu left-overs.

We can play this game all day:

Here is one: Who am I? I was KTFO twice and lost to a past prime fighter?