People consider Marquez better than Pac? Well who has he beat?

[badboypeenoy]

There is no comparison between the two when it comes to their records. During his prime Marquez had piss poor management, like Joe Calzaghe type management, that kept him from ever being able to shine the way he should have.

When it comes to skills, I think Marquez is overall the better fighter : I.E.- More skills. He's much more gifted and technically sound than Pacquiao, he does nearly everything better. And the only thing that's cost him against Pacquiao has been his balls and willingness to scrap, because Pac's power and speed always put him on the deck.

But in terms of actual skill, Marquez has the edge IMO, and I know I'm not alone in thinking this. Back when they first fought in what? 04? He schooled Pacquiao, almost embarassed him. Granted Pac was only a lefty then, and has improved a lot since that fight.

Anyways, I think skill wise Marquez is the better fighter. But Pac has the better record.

JMM isn't the better fighter. He is the better "boxer" I give him that, but a fighter? I don't think so.

[Sandro17]

There is no comparison between the two when it comes to their records. During his prime Marquez had piss poor management, like Joe Calzaghe type management, that kept him from ever being able to shine the way he should have.

When it comes to skills, I think Marquez is overall the better fighter : I.E.- More skills. He's much more gifted and technically sound than Pacquiao, he does nearly everything better. And the only thing that's cost him against Pacquiao has been his balls and willingness to scrap, because Pac's power and speed always put him on the deck.

But in terms of actual skill, Marquez has the edge IMO, and I know I'm not alone in thinking this. Back when they first fought in what? 04? He schooled Pacquiao, almost embarassed him. Granted Pac was only a lefty then, and has improved a lot since that fight.

Anyways, I think skill wise Marquez is the better fighter. But Pac has the better record.

I think thats true. If boxing were all about skill and nothing else just pure skill and mental ability, Marquez would be the GOAT he might be only 2nd to Robinson O.o

But Boxing isn't all about skill. There is a huge physical aspect to the game. You don't see me discrediting Foreman do you?

[Chups]

you dumb idiotic pac nuthuggers, all your doing is discrediting pacquiaos victories.. lmfao.

You're the idiot, even if you take away Marquez' name on Pac's accomplisments, Pac's still an ATG!

We can call JMM gay and unaccomplished all we want......he's just one of the many legends Pac took care of.
I wish Pac didn't give that faggot a chance from the beginning....he would have been a nobody. But anyway Pac will take that 1 win and a draw from him.

[ßringer]

JMM isn't the better fighter. He is the better "boxer" I give him that, but a fighter? I don't think so.

That I can actually agree with, with Manny being the better "fighter". But to imply Marquez isn't a fighter at all? C'mon man, the guy busts his ass in training, takes this sport very seriously, and really lives for it. That deserves a bit of respect.

I think thats true. If boxing were all about skill and nothing else just pure skill and mental ability, Marquez would be the GOAT he might be only 2nd to Robinson O.o

But Boxing isn't all about skill. There is a huge physical aspect to the game. You don't see me discrediting Foreman do you?

I'll put it this way. Sometimes in boxing what makes one fighter stand out over another has nothing to do with skill, and everything to do with the intangibles. While Marquez has the skill edge on Pacquiao, Manny has the intangibles.

And as I said, sometimes that's all it takes to seperate one great fighter from another.

I have huge respect for both guys though.

[MANGLER]

People who don't like Pac will always throw JMM's name out there as means of ****tin on him, but fact is although closely, he lost twice to Pac. **** the ****** judge in the 1st fight. JMM is world class and capable of beatin Pac, but he hasn't.

[Mr. Ryan]

Let's be honest here, Pacquiao was picking on a guy moving up two divisions to face him.

No he wasn't, that was de la Hoya.

[ßringer]

Let's be honest here, Pacquiao was picking on a guy moving up two divisions to face him.

No he wasn't, that was de la Hoya.

What the fuck Ryan, did you sell your sig to the McDonalds corporation?

[xcaret]

You're the idiot, even if you take away Marquez' name on Pac's accomplisments, Pac's still an ATG!

We can call JMM gay and unaccomplished all we want......he's just one of the many legends Pac took care of.
I wish Pac didn't give that faggot a chance from the beginning....he would have been a nobody. But anyway Pac will take that 1 win and a draw from him.

so JMM is a legend now? make you ur ****** mind nuthuggers.

[Chups]

so JMM is a legend now? make you ur ****** mind nuthuggers.

I do as I please.

[GTL]

It's Marquez and Beristain's fault that they said "no" to a Hamed fight, shunned an offer to fight Morales and decided to fight Chris John instead of an immediate rematch with Pacquiao.

NO, Hamed and Emanuel openly ducked Marquez and even said so on a HBO telecast
But Marquez was the idiot who fought Chris John and lost..
Hes mad some ****** decisions, but hes a great fighter who never got to shine..
He is battle worn and has been in some wars, but hes still kicking ass NOW..
Credit to his excellent boxing skills and hes the BEST counter puncher ive ever seen..

IF it wasnt for the pacman Kds Maruez would be 2-0 win manny, but thats not the case..