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  • #41
    Originally posted by Pico Hollywood View Post
    Oscar was drained this fight and manny had a different style than Floyd does obviously.

    Floyd is cautious and a counter puncher, Manny = aggressor bob and weave fighter.... Styles and age makes fights.

    BMWM3P you know this..

    Give Both Manny and Floyd Credit on beating an Oscar de la hoya who can't do well against fighters with speed.
    Manny was anything but the aggressor yesterday. He kept his distance and killed Oscar with the lead lefts, then he occasionally went on the inside quickly, and got out after getting a few shots in.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
      who the hell cherry picks an undefeated p4p number 8? and how do you cherry pick DLH whom everyone would die to get a fight with, including cotto. I understand floyds welter resume was lackluster, but thats one division. At 140 NOBODY fought ANYBODY, that includes cotto, hatton, and mayweather. Tszyu losing to hatton threw that division in disarry, since hatton basically ducked floyd, cotto was too young and green, and floyd was looking to basically move up anyway with no real threats at 140 other than tszyu and hatton, which neither fight would ever materialize.
      And stil he was a welterweight champion, who was considered the best ww by many including you. If he wants to be great, why doesn't he fight the best. He chose not to fight Margarito, he ignored Cotto and he picked the fights he knew he could win for sure.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by BMWM3P View Post
        What Many did today has clarified what I always knew to be true. Mayweather is by no means an all time great. The DLH that Manny fought today is not far off from the DLH, Floyd fought 1 year. Floyd fought DHL to a split decesion while Manny totally dominated, shut him out and stopped him. Just imagine what Cotto and Margarito would have done to DLH. Not to take anything from Many, he fought a great fight and he's one hell of a fighter. But he has no business in the welterweight division.

        Mayweather is just a big hype job, who knew who to fight and when to fight. He may have retired thinking he's an all time great, but there are many out there proving that he just all hype.
        The DLH we seen last night is worlds apart from the one floyd fought. Manny was amazing last night and deserves all the credit in the world but dont talk ****.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Tuggers1986 View Post
          The DLH we seen last night is worlds apart from the one floyd fought. Manny was amazing last night and deserves all the credit in the world but dont talk ****.
          Thank you. Different weight. Different trainer. Different gameplan. The Oscar that night came to fight. Idk what Oscar was doing last nite. He was trying to box apparently against a faster, slicker and better boxer.

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          • #45
            By the mere fact anyone would bring up the name PBF is a credit to him in and of itself. Why can't you fools Leave the name Maywheather out of your mouth? Give this man's nutts a rest!

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            • #46
              Originally posted by The_Executioner View Post
              Thank you. Different weight. Different trainer. Different gameplan. The Oscar that night came to fight. Idk what Oscar was doing last nite. He was trying to box apparently against a faster, slicker and better boxer.
              So did the Oscar that was there yesterday, he was just shocked that he couldn't push Manny around like he did Floyd. Manny did what Floyd couldn't, he took DLH completely out of the fight. You chose to ignore that Manny is much smaller than either Floyd or DLH, he only got up to 142 and yet he still beat the crap out of the much bigger man.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by BMWM3P View Post
                So did the Oscar that was there yesterday, he was just shocked that he couldn't push Manny around like he did Floyd. Manny did what Floyd couldn't, he took DLH completely out of the fight. You chose to ignore that Manny is much smaller than either Floyd or DLH, he only got up to 142 and yet he still beat the crap out of the much bigger man.

                Didn't you know?
                Only Floyd and Roy can get credit for those achievements.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by BMWM3P View Post
                  And stil he was a welterweight champion, who was considered the best ww by many including you. If he wants to be great, why doesn't he fight the best. He chose not to fight Margarito, he ignored Cotto and he picked the fights he knew he could win for sure.
                  He ignored cotto and retired after he fought hatton. He basically settled his nemesis from 140 and retired. Sure floyd runs his mouth about being the best and this and that, but so what, he has a place in history, just not as high as he thinks, its not that big of a deal. When cotto starts taking challanges at 160, 4 divisions up from where he started, then we will see how you feel then. Mayweather basically didint take on guys that were way bigger than him, and you are faulting mayweather for not fighting guys 3 times his size, calling him a ***** basically. Thats fine, just remember that cotto and mayweathers careers almost mirror each other, both moved up one division and established themselves in nearly the same fashion.

                  Again mayweather is already great, he already has a place in history, although he didint take on the best welterweights of the time, it doesnt erase who he was as a fighter, much to your dismay.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by El Gallo Negro! View Post

                    Didn't you know?
                    Only Floyd and Roy can get credit for those achievements.

                    Kind've seems that way, doesnt it.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by mr.anthrax View Post
                      I agree with the OP
                      Me too. Oscar is nowhere near shot like some people claim, he only fought ONCE since the Mayweather fight and has received no damage. Weight is another excuse. Over-training is another. Dehydration is yet another.

                      What else can anyone come up with to discredit Manny? Keep going. This bull**** is quite entertaining.



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