Mayweather greatness debunked

[moin126]

Look at what Floyd did agaist Gatti, was that cautious counterpunching. While styles may make fights, when Stevie Forbes can give DLH a fight where does that leave Floyd. The fact is DLH won a lot of rounds against Floyd, Manny demolished him. If Manny could do to DHL what Floyd did to Gatti, then what stopped Floyd from doing the same.

FLoyd was shown to be a hypejob today and when Manny KOs Hatton be even clearer that Floyd really wasn't that great.

look at what a mess your thoughts are.
Obviously its not floyds flashy lifestyle and personality that made him nr1.

It was his far superior skill. He didnt have to get the ko every fight, ..no you idiot.

He destroyed opponents mentally, wheter by pushing and pressing vs judah, or boxing vs baldomir, or in-fighting vs hatton, pocket -fighting vs ndou, countering vs dela.

Manny's style is so straightforward, floyd will destroy him, gatti'ish, by that i mean in the same style. Manny is overatted, floyd is very underatted.

[El Jesus]

No Floyd won them by carefull planning and cherrypicking his opponents.

who the hell cherry picks an undefeated p4p number 8? and how do you cherry pick DLH whom everyone would die to get a fight with, including cotto. I understand floyds welter resume was lackluster, but thats one division. At 140 NOBODY fought ANYBODY, that includes cotto, hatton, and mayweather. Tszyu losing to hatton threw that division in disarry, since hatton basically ducked floyd, cotto was too young and green, and floyd was looking to basically move up anyway with no real threats at 140 other than tszyu and hatton, which neither fight would ever materialize.

[Vasyl’s dad]

why does everybody forget that PBF ****ing schooled dlh. i had him winning by a large margin when watching the fight. didnt he land like twice as many punches in compubox stats? i think the final scores and the MD is what in the long run has made people start to say it was a close fight. everytime i hear peopel talk about the fight they talk about it as if it was controversial.. there was no controversiality in that fight.. pbf won big time.

BTW i dont think DLH declined THAT much from that fight to this one. i rewatched DLH-Forbes today and noticed his jab wasnt very fast and his jab to the body was very slow as well. the jab in this pacman fight was exactly the same. i also noticed forbes didnt put that many punches together and really just fought like a sparring partner. fighting to stay competitive and lose. (kind of like emanuel augustus early in his career)

PBFs style is different. i think he wasnt confident he could take DLHs punch. he hit and ran. pot shotted and ran. made for a boring fight but he still won easily IMO. like DLH said.. pbf "didnt take any risks" he landed that lead right the way pacman landed the lead left as well...

If, Mayweather "schooled", DLH as you say, even losing few rounds along the way, what does it say about Manny who, didn't lose any exchanges, or rounds, and made DLH quit on his stool?

[BMWM3P]

Cottos reign is looking similar to floyds, taking all comers for two divisions, under the same company, in a couple cases, fighting guys floyd already fought. There is no difference between their careers at this point with the exception that floyd didint lose when he made his first division jump to 135 against the most credible champion of the time.

He could've fouth Margo in what would've been his biggest payday to date, so what stopped him. And Cotto was an established welterweight that actually fought other top welterweights, he wasn't making a division jump.

[Sutekh uvdabrix]

LOL @ the triangle theories

[Brandish]

mayweather was never great to begin with because he was afraid to fight the best.

name one fighter that was considered better than floyd and he didn't fight him

they said chico, genaro, castillo, hatton, judah, and de la hoya were better then floyd and he kicked all of their asses.

no one is claiming margarito is better then floyd, and we all know cotto ain't better he just got beat by a c-level fighter.

so who is this best you keep talking about.

yhis should be fun

[BMWM3P]

look at what a mess your thoughts are.
Obviously its not floyds flashy lifestyle and personality that made him nr1.

It was his far superior skill. He didnt have to get the ko every fight, ..no you idiot.

He destroyed opponents mentally, wheter by pushing and pressing vs judah, or boxing vs baldomir, or in-fighting vs hatton, pocket -fighting vs ndou, countering vs dela.

Manny's style is so straightforward, floyd will destroy him, gatti'ish, by that i mean in the same style. Manny is overatted, floyd is very underatted.

And you are obviously ******ed.

[JaNnO]

lol, pac is no gatti. pac is lightyears ahead of gatti in terms of boxing skills, speed and power.

look at what a mess your thoughts are.
Obviously its not floyds flashy lifestyle and personality that made him nr1.

It was his far superior skill. He didnt have to get the ko every fight, ..no you idiot.

He destroyed opponents mentally, wheter by pushing and pressing vs judah, or boxing vs baldomir, or in-fighting vs hatton, pocket -fighting vs ndou, countering vs dela.

Manny's style is so straightforward, floyd will destroy him, gatti'ish, by that i mean in the same style. Manny is overatted, floyd is very underatted.

[j-rod]

Amen. PBF is the master of the shoulder/***** roll. Manny just went in and fought a man's fight. Period.

[El Jesus]

He could've fouth Margo in what would've been his biggest payday to date, so what stopped him. And Cotto was an established welterweight that actually fought other top welterweights, he wasn't making a division jump.

What stopped him was he did fight the linear champ for the same money. Either way i already awknowledged that mayweather welter resume was lackluster but its not all on mayweather, since frankly, the only reason i seriously think he moved up was to take on Judah, whom at the time was the king of the division, so he fought both undisputed and former champs. At the time margarito was the number 1 welter, but brought nothing to the table other than the fabled offer. Frankly, its the same ish margarito and his fans use today, telling williams to "get in line"


You saying that Mayweather ducked the best at 135? AND YES it IS a division jump, when you move from one division to the next, you jump divisions. Mayweather moved to 135 and was clearly the best fighter in that division. Cotto moved up ONE division and established himself, just like floyd, what is the difference?