Measured Against All Time - Oscar De La Hoya

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My personal opinion is that De La Hoya is an All-Time Great. I give a lot more respect to DLH then I do to Calzaghe, who was previously stated to be an ATG. De La Hoya didn't just make big money fights like in his past few fights, he made tough fights. He took on big risks in the ring, knowing there was a possibility he could lose. Comparing the two resumes, I would say beating Vargas, Ruelas, Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, and Hernandez is more impressive then beating an old Jones, Hopkins, Lacy, Kessler, and Eubank. DLH could have just grabbed a belt and hung onto it for years like Calzaghe did, but no, he took on the biggest and baddest fighters around. Taking on a prime Trinidad, Quartey, and a P4P guy like Mosley, when did Calzaghe ever take those sort of risks. Not saying Calzaghe's not an ATG, just saying that if he is, then DLH deserves that same or better consideration. Because in my mind, boxing isn't about retiring undefeated or losing only once or twice, it's about the challenges you take and the adversity you have overcome. No one in my time watching boxing has taken greater risks then DLH, and even still he has a great record. Oscar DLH is an all time great in my mind, no matter what an article says.

STFU bitching about Calzaghe. Jesus christ, do you guys ever stop?



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[dans]

STFU bitching about Calzaghe. Jesus christ, do you guys ever stop?

I'm not bitching about Calzaghe. It's a valid arguement. The last article was about Calzaghe being an ATG, which I agree with, so I'm just comparing the two. Is it not accurate to say that De La Hoya has better career wins then Calzaghe?

[Sinisterevo]

Sorry but De La Hoya is an all-time great, just as Calzaghe is also.

[lparm]

If DLh somehow gets stopped I think it will have a big effect

Let's hope Manny does end the days of PPV trolling and hyping mismatches (forbes, mayorga, etc) by the hypejob la hoya.

[sterling]

by Cliff Rold - It will matter if he loses this Saturday, especially considering the size advantage Oscar De La Hoya takes into the ring with Manny Pacquiao. It just won’t matter forever. Oscar’s surest path to defeat is a calendar only months away from a thirty-sixth birthday more than the man in front of him. In choosing Pacquiao, De La Hoya has selected the available opponent with the biggest name and smallest chances. A loss would be fitting comeuppance for taking the fight at all, but won’t detract much from De La Hoya’s standing in history.

That is, if a place in history can be clearly assigned to the “Golden Boy.”

It is sometimes hard to imagine the smiling star of the 1992 Olympics nearing middle-age but it’s a destination most get to and surpass with reluctance. Turned pro mere months after the Gold Medal win which began his story, De La Hoya has been the biggest star of his time but, sixteen years later, it’s tough to figure how Oscar will be remembered.

He doesn’t categorize well.

Having fought at some point in six different weight divisions, he’s difficult to rate in any of them. Compared to other historical scale jumpers, mixed successes in the last ten years and the immediacy of memory make him difficult to measure as well. Could it be that time will allow the sum of his career parts to take on greater meaning? The question is asked: [details]

great article man.

[Catrin]

Oscar is a money making machine!! however as a boxer i don't think many people appreciatte the fact that over the years he's been "Exploting Mexican Holidays" to fight make lots of money and loose!!! That is the reason that many mexicans rule for him....besides that I take nothing away!!! Good Luck

[IMustBreakU]

Oscar is HoF material for fighting and will be in for promoting one day as well. Hey, good for him, he's had a storybook career. As strictly a fighter though, he is not an ATG.

Calzaghe is based on... well, just read Cliff's article on Calzaghe. It's spot on.

[dondi330]

"NOT AN ALL-TIME GREAT" BUT A HALL OF FAMER " I agree...now get over it nuthuggers.
He will be remembered as a very, very good boxer. But he is in opportunist and will be more remembered because of his business savy. Hey for those who love him ...het he got alot of money.. so be happy.

[Thread Stealer]

Good article.

ATG?

All depends on one's criteria for an ATG. Some people have higher standards for it.

[donray]

My personal opinion is that De La Hoya is an All-Time Great. I give a lot more respect to DLH then I do to Calzaghe, who was previously stated to be an ATG. De La Hoya didn't just make big money fights like in his past few fights, he made tough fights. He took on big risks in the ring, knowing there was a possibility he could lose. Comparing the two resumes, I would say beating Vargas, Ruelas, Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, and Hernandez is more impressive then beating an old Jones, Hopkins, Lacy, Kessler, and Eubank. DLH could have just grabbed a belt and hung onto it for years like Calzaghe did, but no, he took on the biggest and baddest fighters around. Taking on a prime Trinidad, Quartey, and a P4P guy like Mosley, when did Calzaghe ever take those sort of risks. Not saying Calzaghe's not an ATG, just saying that if he is, then DLH deserves that same or better consideration. Because in my mind, boxing isn't about retiring undefeated or losing only once or twice, it's about the challenges you take and the adversity you have overcome. No one in my time watching boxing has taken greater risks then DLH, and even still he has a great record. Oscar DLH is an all time great in my mind, no matter what an article says.

I agree with your assesment about the comparison between calzaghe and delahoya and the competition they have faced, if joe is to be considered an ATG then so must oscar because oscar has fought the best comeptition by far with mixed results.

But my final conclusion is that neither is an ATG, oscar in my opinion should be rated higher than joe because he has consistently faced the better comp, but has also lost in some of the most significant fights of his career, ie mosley twice, mayweather, trinidad, it can also be argued and many would agree that he lost the fight with whitakker also.

Because of losses in these important bouts, which if he had won would have surely cemented his legacy as an all time great, because he lost these career defining fights he cannot be considered an all time great, but to his credit has faced and been willing to face some of the the best of his era, something you cannot say about the current crop of champions, and self proclaimed ATGs, oscar is hall of fame material for sure, but ATG status eludes him.