Pacquaio's wins over Erik Morales...

[C.Y.]

I'm watching Erik Morales get his ass kicked by Raheem right now, and I think I have changed my mind on how much credit Pacquiao should get on the second and third fights with Morales.

Clearly Morales performed horribly against Raheem, who is still, an average fighter. I think a lot of that was 135 or something, because it wasn't like Morales was doing a lot of things wrong in that fight, he just wasn't punching. His output was dismal.

The way he performed against Pacquaio in the rematch was very good, until he ran out of gas, and I am actually fairly persuaded by the Pacquiao fans who say that is because Pacquiao went to the body a lot more in the rematch than he did in the first fight. I think the version of Morales that Pacquiao beat in the rematch was past his prime, although clearly a lot less than most people on here say. People act like Morales was shot for the second fight. Untrue.

He was shot as **** for the third fight though. Whether it be too many wars or weight issues, that version of Erik Morales could not have beaten anyone. He was off balance for every shot, couldn't take a punch (which was his signature quality throughout his career) and just got completely dominated. Not much credit here will be given by most people.

People should watch Raheem/Morales and Pacquiao/Morales II again if they do just dismiss Pacquiao's rematch win as a win over a shot fighter.

you made alot of good points.. to me erik wasn't completely shot but he was past his prime and anyone can see that even the pacman fans..

[Vasyl’s dad]

3rd fight he simply wasn't the same. Didn't have the same snap to his punches, nor the strength, will or desire.

2nd fight put him in the position he was in during the 3rd fight. But he wasn't shot in that fight either, past his best, but not shot.

Even in the Diaz bouts I wouldn't consider him shot, just well past his best days, and even then, he managed to knock David down. I thought he came away with a W, but won't complain because he wasn't overly impressive either.

As much as I'd like to see the old Terrible back, I'd just as likely he hang them up for good.