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    #31
    Originally posted by markfrombrookly
    Umm you forget the man is in his 40's?

    What does that have to do with anything?

    Hes still in fighting shape and schooled a man 17 years younger.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Pancho Gonzales
      Tarver is the only lightheavy he fought. Everyone else, came up to fight him, Winky, Kelly, and Joe.
      Uhh Pavlik is also a middleweight like Hopkins was and Joe fought most of his career at 168 while Hopkins was fighting at 160 so what's your point? Yeah Winky moved up I'll agree with you on that.

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        #33
        Originally posted by markfrombrookly
        Umm you forget the man is in his 40's?
        I don't give a **** even if he was 50. No one is telling him to keep fighting, unless the dude has like 10 kids.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Pancho Gonzales

          What does that have to do with anything?

          Hes still in fighting shape and schooled a man 17 years younger.
          It has to do with the guy i was replying to saying wow big deal that hopkins moved up 2 weight classes and beat the man of that weight class which was Antonio Tarver.

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            #35
            Originally posted by markfrombrookly
            Uhh Pavlik is also a middleweight like Hopkins was and Joe fought most of his career at 168 while Hopkins was fighting at 160 so what's your point? Yeah Winky moved up I'll agree with you on that.
            Pav and Hops wasn't at 160.
            Joe and Hops wasn't at 168.

            3 of the four fighters Hopkins faced, came up in weight to fight him.



            Logic isn't really your strong suit is it?

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              #36
              Originally posted by markfrombrookly
              Hey I gave Margarito credit for beating Cotto, I said it was a great win for him. But Margarito didn't win on skill lets be honest. He won because he was the naturally bigger and stronger man therefore he was able to take Cottos punches and not be effected. Is that a fair assessment?
              Well isn't that a part of boxing?

              Rocky our demigod, says it is not about how hard you hit but how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.

              You know what makes Margarito different from Andrade was his ability to land flush shots after getting tagged hard during the entire fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by chicano79us
                I don't give a **** even if he was 50. No one is telling him to keep fighting, unless the dude has like 10 kids.
                Yeah but you act like its no big deal that Hopkins moved up 2 WEIGHT DIVISIONS and fought the best guy at the weight and decisively beat him. When was the last time a Middleweight went up 2 weight divisions to beat the top guy at that weight??? I'll wait for your answer.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by chicano79us
                  I'm not overlooking what Oscar has done, but if you're going to hate on the guy, hate on the rest for being just as guilty.
                  Hop has fought some smaller guys, like Tito and DLH. But he also fought bigger guys like Tarver and Cal who was a career 168 lb'er. DLH has fought more smaller guys than Hop ever has. But they've both gone after smaller fighters at times.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Pancho Gonzales
                    Pav and Hops wasn't at 160.
                    Joe and Hops wasn't at 168.

                    3 of the four fighters Hopkins faced, came up in weight to fight him.



                    Logic isn't really your strong suit is it?
                    You're a moron. I know that Joe and Hops wasnt at 168 but you're sitting here acting like Hopkins has been fighting at 175 for years or something. He's not a natural Light Heavyweight just like Joe is not a natural Light Heavyweight. But the fact is that Hopkins is a natural Middleweight and Joe is a natural Super Middleweight. So what was that about Logic that you said?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by markfrombrookly
                      Yeah but you act like its no big deal that Hopkins moved up 2 WEIGHT DIVISIONS and fought the best guy at the weight and decisively beat him. When was the last time a Middleweight went up 2 weight divisions to beat the top guy at that weight??? I'll wait for your answer.

                      It was impressive, I don't take that away from him. But you mentioned Margarito fights smaller guys........what are the majority of Bhop's greatest wins against???

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