MMA vs. Boxing could easily be made, but why not so far?

[JAB5239]

What rules though?

MMA and boxing are two different sports and should be kept that way.

Just added it: We can go old school UFC rules when Gracie owned it which is almost no rules. Just no testicle shots and poking of the eyes. The rest is allowed.

Fedor wins under any MMA rules, Wlad under boxing rules. I agree with BrooklynBomber though, they are two different sports and should be kept that way.

[Dice]

Fedor would break Vitali in half in a fight and Vitali would punch of Fedor's head in a boxing match, its pretty simple

[Benny Leonard]

Fedor would beat any Heavyweight boxer in history in anything resembling MMA rules

He would kill them on the ground

THe only way this can happen is say Fedor fights a Klitchsko under MMA rules and a month later a return fight under boxing rules. The winner being who does better in their 'away' rules.

E.g. if Fedor survived to a decision in boxing but subbed Klitch in MMA, he would be considered the winner

If Klitch survived to a decision in MMA rules but KOed Fedor in boxing rules, hw would be considered the winner

Point is who is the better fighter in hand to hand combat. No rules...will leave it at that if you don't want to go by the Old School Gracie UFC rules.

Forget the "sport" aspect: I'm talking about a Fight in Nature...the way Gracie intended it to be before Dana White had to buy him out and made it into a "sport"

[BattlingNelson]

Point is who is the better fighter in hand to hand combat. No rules...will leave it at that if you don't want to go by the Old School Gracie UFC rules.

Forget the "sport" aspect: I'm talking about a Fight in Nature...the way Gracie intended it to be before Dana White had to buy him out and made it into a "sport"

No rules? Then it comes down to who has the bigger bite.

[Benny Leonard]

No rules? Then it comes down to who has the bigger bite.

LOL...yeah...that's why I made it a bit cleaner with the Gracie rules.

If I had to use that, I would just put Tyson vs. whoever

[Dice]

Point is who is the better fighter in hand to hand combat. No rules...will leave it at that if you don't want to go by the Old School Gracie UFC rules.

Forget the "sport" aspect: I'm talking about a Fight in Nature...the way Gracie intended it to be before Dana White had to buy him out and made it into a "sport"

Rorion Gracie never cared about hand to hand combat nor about any other form of martial arts, he just wanted to promote his Jui Jui Su because he knew all the other forms were striking and none of them knew nothing of ground fighting and submissions.

Thats why the minute Ken Shamrock trained specifically on blocking subs, Royce couldnt do anything. Most of the Gracies suck in actually Mixed Martial Arts today, although I still show respect for them inventing the UFC

[Steak]

Point is who is the better fighter in hand to hand combat. No rules...will leave it at that if you don't want to go by the Old School Gracie UFC rules.

Forget the "sport" aspect: I'm talking about a Fight in Nature...the way Gracie intended it to be before Dana White had to buy him out and made it into a "sport"

a sport in nature is not fair. if I get into a fight with a guy on the street because he wants to kill me or something and theres no way of getting away, I would
A. Shoot him if I had a gun
B. Stab him if I had a knife
C. Pick up some object like a beer bottle to use as a weapon.
D. Hit him in the balls/poke eyeballs/some other horrible thing.

In other words, I would not use any boxing or mma tactics. the best fighter in a street fight is probebly a track runner or something like that, because he can get away and will never lose a fight. If you get into a fight in the streets, if youre alive, not seriously injured and still have your money/valuables, you won no matter what.

[FLYBOY]

stfu man. don't ever dare to bring boxing to such a low level.

[Benny Leonard]

Rorion Gracie never cared about hand to hand combat nor about any other form of martial arts, he just wanted to promote his Jui Jui Su because he knew all the other forms were striking and none of them knew nothing of ground fighting and submissions.

Thats why the minute Ken Shamrock trained specifically on blocking subs, Royce couldnt do anything. Most of the Gracies suck in actually Mixed Martial Arts today, although I still show respect for them inventing the UFC

True, True...but he had the right idea.

Who was the Asian Fighter that basically handled him way back? stocky guy

[Benny Leonard]

stfu man. don't ever dare to bring boxing to such a low level.

Are you seriously that ignorant?

What do they teach in the Military?