Prime Mike Tyson VS Prime David Tua

[tyson]

It proves he could be stopped when he wasn't fully matured. But when he was fully matured as a pro, there was no proof he could be stopped or even hurt.

I'm sorry, but that's laughable. He has been hurt, he has even been down.

[paul750]

forget tyson-tua. the timeline didn't match.

mccall-tua would've been crazy. i think it would've been like ike-tua. but tua would catch mccall with more bombs and oliver had more pop than ike.

too bad that fight never got made.

McCall certainly has an appropriate nickname, because he is indeed a bull. Not sure if he has more power than Ike had though.

[Left Hook Tua]

You are very wrong. Tyson was at his best going side-to-side, unleashing punches from angles were he couldn't get countered.

Tua's downfall would most likely be his tendency to lean forward, making himself open to those devastating Tyson uppercuts.

Tyson couldn't go under Tua's punches? Since when did it become impossible to duck under a punch that comes at your head?

you're imagining tua fighting like one of the guys tyson has fought. fact is tua will go forward against tyson and slug it out instead of outboxing tyson. how many times have you seen guys back up mike? when they were able to , it didn't go well for mike.

tua is about an inch or so shorter than mike. how low do you want mike to go? not the same thing ducking under a guys punches when he's shorter than you than when you are doing it against guys 4-5 inches taller.

[Left Hook Tua]

I'm sorry, but that's laughable. He has been hurt, he has even been down.

he's rarely been really hurt.

he's been down what once? and it wasn't an official knockdown.

how many times has mike kissed the canvas?

[Benny Leonard]

he's rarely been really hurt.

he's been down what once? and it wasn't an official knockdown.

how many times has mike kissed the canvas?

Zero in his prime. And when he was not, he took a severe beating before going down. Not being in condition doesn't help...but not moving your head is worse.

The Rahman knock down of Tua was kind of b.s. Tua was throwing a punch and his feet were in a bad position so he was knocked off balance. It wasn't even much of a punch but Tua was tired and like I said, he was not in the right position to keep his balance after he punched the way he did.

Tua's key was tucking his chin tight and staying low. Emamanuel Steward actually point this out.

[Benny Leonard]

lewis , rahman , ibeabuchi , maskaev...... those were some hard hitting guys , tyson.

anybody can be knocked out but tua took a beating from lennox. those right hands were devastating and tua took it well for the most part.

remember , tyson can't go under tua's punches and go over the top like he would against most of his opponents.

and tua will try to back him up. tyson needs space for his power. mike was at his most dangerous from the outside coming in. tua might not give him that space.

Tyson didn't need much space at all. He actually liked to clinch and get in close, then explode with a body shot and follow up with an upercut. If he didn't do that, he liked the 3-5 punch combo to the mid-section and work his way from there. He just had an arsenal of punches and combos to work from. Plus, if he needed space, he knew how to get it. He was very agile and he could sweep and make space quickly. Tyson reach isn't that big. Tyson and Tua's reach are very close.

[tyson]

I'm not imagining Tua fighting in any other way than his usual self.
But remember now, this is a fighter who never was good enough to become world champion, going up against the baddest man on the planet.

Mike has an incredible chin. If Tua received such beatings as Tyson did against Lewis, he too would have been licking the floor.
But regardless of their chins, their power was both greater than the respective chins.
If something clean connected twice, lights out, no questions.

Due to styles, superior movement, better combination punching, much faster hands and ability to move around his opponent when in close, Tyson wins this.

In my opinion.

[Benny Leonard]

I'm not imagining Tua fighting in any other way than his usual self.
But remember now, this is a fighter who never was good enough to become world champion, going up against the baddest man on the planet.

Mike has an incredible chin. If Tua received such beatings as Tyson did against Lewis, he too would have been licking the floor.
But regardless of their chins, their power was both greater than the respective chins.
If something clean connected twice, lights out, no questions.

Due to styles, superior movement, better combination punching, much faster hands and ability to move around his opponent when in close, Tyson wins this.

In my opinion.

Tua's fight with Ike was his last great fight. That fight took something out of him...as well as IKE.



This is the fight you should be watching: Its' an idea of Tua vs. a strong, good fighter.

Part 1

[Left Hook Tua]

I'm not imagining Tua fighting in any other way than his usual self.
But remember now, this is a fighter who never was good enough to become world champion, going up against the baddest man on the planet.

Mike has an incredible chin. If Tua received such beatings as Tyson did against Lewis, he too would have been licking the floor.
But regardless of their chins, their power was both greater than the respective chins.
If something clean connected twice, lights out, no questions.

Due to styles, superior movement, better combination punching, much faster hands and ability to move around his opponent when in close, Tyson wins this.

In my opinion.

tua got one title shot. it was against a top 5-10 atg at the top of his game.

you don't think tua could've beaten the berbick or tucker or holmes or pinklon or tubbs or spinks that tyson beat?

fact is tua beat 3 guys that went on to be world champions. that's very impressive.

[Left Hook Tua]

Tyson didn't need much space at all. He actually liked to clinch and get in close, then explode with a body shot and follow up with an upercut. If he didn't do that, he liked the 3-5 punch combo to the mid-section and work his way from there. He just had an arsenal of punches and combos to work from. Plus, if he needed space, he knew how to get it. He was very agile and he could sweep and make space quickly. Tyson reach isn't that big. Tyson and Tua's reach are very close.

i kinda disagree.

tyson was not a great inside fighter. he can be at times. he had the arsenal to be for sure.

but to me tyson was at his best coming in. the middle. not on the outside. not on the inside. he was at his best coming in from the outside.

just my opinion though from what i remember watching tyson fight.