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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #71
    Originally posted by paul750
    Ibeabuchi threw more punches in his fight with Tua than any other heavyweight in history. Even if you don't think Ibeabuchi's power was quite up there with Tyson's, it was still serious power. I just can't see how Tyson could stop Tua. Even if he did hit harder than Ibeabuchi, it was only by a small amount.
    ike was crazy. he was throwing a 100 power punches a round!

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      #72
      Originally posted by El Dominicano
      A while back I would have said Tyson but I'm going with Tua. They can both hurt eachother but Tua can take it better...it'd be a really close fight and THIS time

      I gotta go with Tua...He has heart and doesn't fold when the fight doesn't go his way > Like Tyson.
      i love you......

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      • tyson
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        #73
        Felix Savon was not known as a super-powerful one-punch knockout artist.

        Teenager or not, it's proof that he has a brain in there just as everyone else. He can be knocked out, and if anybody could, Tyson would.

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          #74
          Originally posted by tyson
          A couple of things;

          -Tyson was not in prime condition, not physically nor mentally, when he fought Douglas.
          -Tua was not in his prime when he was dominated by Lewis.

          Tyson would win this fight fairly fast and fairly brutal. Proof that Tua can be knocked out;
          That was Tua as a kid before he became a pro. It is absolutely useless to even try and use that against him. I think I'll take hundreds of shots from Ibeabuchi as better evidence he could take shots - as well as all the other shots he took from the likes of Lewis and Rahman.

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            #75
            I don't believe some people can be knocked out. Certainly it's a very small number of fighters, but I still believe it. Do you think if you showed a video of Oliver McCall getting stopped as a 17 year old, it would make the slightest bit of difference as to how good we should rate his chin?

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              #76
              Originally posted by tyson
              Felix Savon was not known as a super-powerful one-punch knockout artist.

              Teenager or not, it's proof that he has a brain in there just as everyone else. He can be knocked out, and if anybody could, Tyson would.
              lewis , rahman , ibeabuchi , maskaev...... those were some hard hitting guys , tyson.

              anybody can be knocked out but tua took a beating from lennox. those right hands were devastating and tua took it well for the most part.

              remember , tyson can't go under tua's punches and go over the top like he would against most of his opponents.

              and tua will try to back him up. tyson needs space for his power. mike was at his most dangerous from the outside coming in. tua might not give him that space.

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                #77
                Originally posted by paul750
                That was Tua as a kid before he became a pro. It is absolutely useless to even try and use that against him. I think I'll take hundreds of shots from Ibeabuchi as better evidence he could take shots - as well as all the other shots he took from the likes of Lewis and Rahman.
                I'm not saying he can't take a shot. I'm not saying he was fully grown up in that fight either. I'm saying that it proves Tua CAN be knocked out. You cannot deny that.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by paul750
                  I don't believe some people can be knocked out. Certainly it's a very small number of fighters, but I still believe it. Do you think if you showed a video of Oliver McCall getting stopped as a 17 year old, it would make the slightest bit of difference as to how good we should rate his chin?
                  forget tyson-tua. the timeline didn't match.

                  mccall-tua would've been crazy. i think it would've been like ike-tua. but tua would catch mccall with more bombs and oliver had more pop than ike.

                  too bad that fight never got made.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by tyson
                    I'm not saying he can't take a shot. I'm not saying he was fully grown up in that fight either. I'm saying that it proves Tua CAN be knocked out. You cannot deny that.
                    It proves he could be stopped when he wasn't fully matured. But when he was fully matured as a pro, there was no proof he could be stopped or even hurt.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      lewis , rahman , ibeabuchi , maskaev...... those were some hard hitting guys , tyson.

                      anybody can be knocked out but tua took a beating from lennox. those right hands were devastating and tua took it well for the most part.

                      remember , tyson can't go under tua's punches and go over the top like he would against most of his opponents.

                      and tua will try to back him up. tyson needs space for his power. mike was at his most dangerous from the outside coming in. tua might not give him that space.
                      You are very wrong. Tyson was at his best going side-to-side, unleashing punches from angles were he couldn't get countered.

                      Tua's downfall would most likely be his tendency to lean forward, making himself open to those devastating Tyson uppercuts.

                      Tyson couldn't go under Tua's punches? Since when did it become impossible to duck under a punch that comes at your head?

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