Why Margarito and Possibly Cotto, WILL NEVER FIGHT "MAYWEATHER"......

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  • Horus
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    #71
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    Because I think Mayweather was great at 130-135. After that, there are lingering questions. So what? Floyd is the one that says he's the best of all time when he's fighting at WW. If so, then he has to prove it. Right?

    Dude, What you dont Understand is, you are a person you wont even GIVE MAYWEATHER credit for beating somebody you thought was the 3rd greatest boxer in all of boxing reguardless of divisions....


    My Problem with you is, you demanding that Mayweather should fight
    fighter "x,y,z" too basically live up too your standards... Just After Mayweather beat the fighter who you thought was the 3RD GREATEST fighter in the world...

    Higher than what you have Cotto or Margarito right now... is ridiculous because if he hasnt prove to you he is a great fighter after he beat somebody you thought was the 3rd greatest fighting in all of boxing...He will never get your respect..

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    • Horus
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      #72
      Originally posted by ALPHA O`MEGA
      so what you're saying is, it's the promoter's fault?
      so why doesn't al put in his 2 with his one like arum did?
      When did Arum do this...?

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      • Ch@mpBox@PR
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        #73
        Originally posted by Horus

        Al Haymons vs. Bob Arum


        Margarito or Cotto will not FIGHT Mayweather EVER until he fights and beats Paul Williams...Because Al Haymon is not going to let Bob Arum put his number #3 in Margarito and his possible #2 against his number # 1 Mayweather..Until Bob Arum Puts Margarito Back in the Ring with Haymons Number # 2 fighter in Paul Williams. Or His # 2 Cotto against Paul Williams.

        Now Maybe Bob Arum and Al Haymon can work together with Pacquaio and Mayweather.. and Maybe Cotto and Mayweather if Cotto beats Margarito... But Margarito and Mayweather Will Never Happen Until Bob Arum stop being a *****..and Put Margarito back in the ring with Williams. Or Cotto in the ring with Williams
        Bob Arum:
        1.Pacquaio
        2.Cotto
        3.Margarito
        4.Kelly Pavlik

        Al Haymon:
        1. Floyd Mayweather
        2. Paul Williams
        3. Andre Berto
        4. Jermain Taylor
        5. Antonio Tarver



        GREAT INTERVIEW: With Mayweather about a possibility of a Pacquaio fight, His Place in History, and His possible RETURN...!!
        Aint Mayweather his own promoter???

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        • Wiley Hyena
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          #74
          Originally posted by Horus

          Dude, What you dont Understand is, you are a person you wont even GIVE MAYWEATHER credit for beating somebody you thought was the 3rd greatest boxer in all of boxing reguardless of divisions....


          My Problem with you is, you demanding that Mayweather should fight
          fighter "x,y,z" too basically live up too your standards... Just After Mayweather beat the fighter who you thought was the 3RD GREATEST fighter in the world...

          Higher than what you have Cotto or Margarito right now... is ridiculous because if he hasnt prove to you he is a great fighter after he beat somebody you thought was the 3rd greatest fighting in all of boxing...He will never get your respect..
          Naaw. Floyd gets respect for beating Hatton at 147 with a biased ref. But that doesn't translate to now saying Floyd has secured his own self proclaimed legacy. I've always had Pacman at #1 p4p. But that doesn't mean I think he can beat Hopkins. The fact is that for Floyd to secure his legacy he has to dominate the WW division. He isn't doing that. So, Floyd has not secured his legacy. Very simple logic here.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
            Aint Mayweather his own promoter???
            Nail in the coffin.

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            • Danny Gunz
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              #76
              Originally posted by Horus
              The fact is People like you will Always Discredit Mayweather, Just like you did after the Hatton Fight..

              The Fact is you said nobody can deny Hatton after he went 43-0.
              The Fact is you said that Hatton is the 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...even HIGHER THAN MAYWEATHER.....
              The Fact is You thought Mayweather Would never Knockout Hatton... well guess what??? PBF not only beat Hatton he Knock him out..

              The Fact is a person like you, is what is wrong with Boxing...
              You cant look at yourself in the mirror and admit when you are wrong..and
              Man up and give people credit for **** you thought they couldnt do...

              How can you Call Mayweather anything but GREAT..After Mayweather beat the person you thought was the 3 GREATEST FIGHTER in the world...Higher than what you got Margarito Right now...

              The fact of the matter is, People like you wouldnt give credit to Mayweather if he beat ****ing A PRIME Sugar Ray Robinson....Just because your Hate wont let you...

              So all your demands that Mayweather should fight this guy, and that guy...
              Is a mute point because you will never give him credit anyways because. You represent alot what of these poster on boxing scene represent....

              AVID HATERS, who will never give Mayweather respect no matter what he does..
              Ive been coming in and out of the post cause it interested me but i think you (horus) need to be not concerned with who is a mayweather hater cause no matter what some people just dont like mayweather and wont give him credit, but every fighter has people who do this.

              But the fact is mayweather retired without fighting any real WW contenders. I dont care how organized your thoughts are or your "williams beat margarito and wont rematch him so if mayweather beats margarito it wont mean anything" claims, you cannot convince anyone but yourself that mayweather did not duck anyone. Just cause one person overrated hatton like a mother****er and put him as 3rd p4p doesnt mean that he was.

              If you are gonna put haters in a column of what is wrong in boxing you must put yourself in a column of what is wrong in boxing due to your ignorance.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Pancho Gonzales
                Nail in the coffin.
                This dude comes everyday traying to bash Margarito and Cotto, trying to make them look bad. And always trying to make a excuse for Mayweather not to
                fight Cotto or Margarito or any dangerous opponnent!!!!!!

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                • Wiley Hyena
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by boxer Q21
                  Ive been coming in and out of the post cause it interested me but i think you (horus) need to be not concerned with who is a mayweather hater cause no matter what some people just dont like mayweather and wont give him credit, but every fighter has people who do this.

                  But the fact is mayweather retired without fighting any real WW contenders. I dont care how organized your thoughts are or your "williams beat margarito and wont rematch him so if mayweather beats margarito it wont mean anything" claims, you cannot convince anyone but yourself that mayweather did not duck anyone. Just cause one person overrated hatton like a mother****er and put him as 3rd p4p doesnt mean that he was.

                  If you are gonna put haters in a column of what is wrong in boxing you must put yourself in a column of what is wrong in boxing due to your ignorance.
                  Good post..................

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                  • Horus
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by boxer Q21
                    Ive been coming in and out of the post cause it interested me but i think you (horus) need to be not concerned with who is a mayweather hater cause no matter what some people just dont like mayweather and wont give him credit, but every fighter has people who do this.

                    But the fact is mayweather retired without fighting any real WW contenders. I dont care how organized your thoughts are or your "williams beat margarito and wont rematch him so if mayweather beats margarito it wont mean anything" claims, you cannot convince anyone but yourself that mayweather did not duck anyone. Just cause one person overrated hatton like a mother****er and put him as 3rd p4p doesnt mean that he was.
                    If you are gonna put haters in a column of what is wrong in boxing you must put yourself in a column of what is wrong in boxing due to your ignorance.

                    Ok let me Give you a example that you can probaly relate to:
                    Let's Put Cotto in Floyd's Shoes


                    140: 1ST WEIGHT CLASS
                    Let Say at the beginning Cotto's Career at 140,He Dominated the Division. He was Knocking out all top Contenders.
                    To the Point that after only 2 years turning Pro Miguel Cotto was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Division

                    Let Say He fought a 140 version of Genaro Hernandez who was 38-1-1 2 time World Champion. And The Reigning WBC world Champion. And The Ring Magazine Recognize World Champion of The Division.Who only Lost came from Oscar De La Hoya in which Oscar broke his in several places. Meaning He Couldnt breath.Which Happen 3 years Earlier
                    .
                    Let's Say in that Fight Cotto Dominated the Recognize Champion at 140. and Offically Became The WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.... not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but The Official Reconize WBC world Champion at 21 years old. And Now Recognize as The Ring Magazine number # 1 fighter in the division at 21 years old
                    and #8 on P4P list out of all the fighters in the world.


                    Let's Say His Next Fight right After that Fight Cotto beat the guy who they said and was RANKED number #2 in the division behind Cotto, And In that fight Cotto Knocks Him Out in the 2nd.Round.

                    Let's Say now Cotto have now beaten 2 out of the top 4 fighters in the 140 division. all before the age Of 22.And the 3rd of those 4 fighters was (Roberto Garcia who was 31-0 with 23 Knock Outs.)
                    And Cotto was about to fight Roberto Garcia, but Roberto Garcia decided to fight Knock Out Artist and Another P4P
                    Phenomenal fighter in Diego Corrales.. Who out of 33 fights to that Point. only 5 fighters didnt get Knock Out. Roberto Garica was knock out in the 7th Round. Now Instead of Miguel Cotto Fighting Roberto Garica, he nows finds himself in the position
                    of fighting the # 5 Pound 4 Pound fighter in the sport, and currently above Cotto as the # 1 fighter at 140...
                    and Is a 2 to 1 Favorite to not only beat Cotto..But to Knock him out.

                    Now Cotto Fights the #5 P4P fighter in the sport and #1 fighter in the division, and in the fight compellingly outclassed
                    and Knocks out 140 verison of Diego Corrales in a 10 round 1 sided fight.

                    Now Cotto Has Completely Clean out the 140 Division with 8 title defenses, with 6 of those fights ending in Knock out.
                    Cotto at 140 now can not get a big name fighter to fight him from 135 or 140. NOBODY..and when big name fighters do get appoarch about fighting Cotto, they either demand a 55-45 split, or didnt return the call. So Cotto starts calling out all the big names Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya, everybody.
                    But Nobody wanted to fight. So instead of staying at 140 where no other big names will fight him at 140 or at 135.


                    147: 2ND WEIGHT CLASS

                    Cotto decides to moved up to 147, and in his 1st Fight at 147 He fights the # 1 fighter in that Division ( 147 Version of JLC)A fighter that is recognize as the number # 1 body puncher in the sport. A Fighter who just made a named for himself
                    by beating a fighter in Stevie Johnston.who was the Reconize #1 fighter at 147 and was p4p # 10 fighter in the sport.In a fight which everybody called it the 2000 Upset of the Year - Ring Magazine. And in that Fight Cotto damages his shoulder and reinjuried his right but stills pulls out the victory. This is the First Fight in Cotto's career in which he has been force to fight and he did not Dominate so people naturally said he lost.. So instead of Moving on with His close Victory He rematches this fighter.. and Completely outclasses him in the rematch, and leaves no doubts that the first fight was a enigma.

                    Now Cotto finds Himself in the Same Position he has Found himself at 140, no big names want to fight him.So he defends his title 4 times..And in each Fight he calls out Oscar, Mosely, and any other big name that would give him the fame he wanted.
                    Cotto is now Ranked p4p # 2 in the sport. But no big names to fight him to pull in a P.P.V audience.
                    154: 3RD WEIGHT CLASS
                    So Cotto Now Moves Up Again to 154 to finally fight a big name (154 version of gatti) In which Cotto Dominates Him..In a fight
                    which finally Puts Cotto atop of the p4p Ranking...He is now # 1 in the sport.
                    So at 154 they are 2 other undefeated fighters their (ricky hatton, and a young mayweather) Cotto calls both of them out..., and niether of them wanted to fight so instead doing what he did at 140 and 147 and
                    defend the 154 title against contenders that will Put him in the same position that he was at 140, and 147..
                    160: 4TH WEIGHT CLASS
                    Cotto goes after another big name Name at 160. The Current Undisputed Middleweight Champion (THE 160 version Zab Judah) and p4p# 10
                    fighter in the world. but before The Champion can fight Cotto, (THE 160 version Zab Judah) must defend his title against Mandatory challenger. A fighter who hasn't lost in 7 years and is a unknown. So the fight happens and the Champion loses his fight to the challenger. In which ****s up all of Cotto'a Plans.
                    So Cotto Fights the Former Champion (160 Version of Zab Judah) anways and also fights the new lineal Middleweight Champion (160 Version of Baldomir) all
                    the while calling out the biggest name in boxing the (Supermiddle Weight Version Of De La Hoya)

                    168: 5TH WEIGHT CLASS
                    Cotto Finally gets the fight of his dreams against the (Supermiddle Weight Version Of De La Hoya) and it is the fight That Finally gives Cotto what he has been looking for..
                    Cross The Board FAME, along with recognized as the P4P best fighter in the sport for 4 years running.
                    Cotto is outweight by 20 pounds come fight night against the the (Supermiddle Weight Version Of De La Hoya) but stills pulls out the victory.
                    160
                    Cotto then goes back down and fights the p4p# 8 Fighter in the sport,
                    Undefeated, prime, (160 version of Ricky Hatton)
                    Cotto knocks him out and now retires.....
                    A Look Back at Cotto's Career

                    MIDDLE WEIGHT CHAMP
                    FORMER SUPERMIDDLE WEIGHT CHAMP
                    FORMER JR. MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP
                    FORMER WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP
                    FORMER JR.WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP
                    17-0-0, 8 KO’S IN CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS
                    9-0-0 (6) at jr.WW .
                    4-0-0 (1) at WW
                    1-0-0 (1) at jr. MIDDLEWEIGHT.
                    2-0-0 (0) at MIDDLEWEIGHT.
                    1-0-0 (0) at SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT.
                    17 CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 166 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 9.8 ROUNDS
                    (63% of his pro rounds have been fought in championship fights)
                    38 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 265 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 7.0 ROUNDS
                    (45% of his fights have been championship fights)

                    • Considered Greatest if His Generation
                    • Undefeated
                    • 39-0
                    • 5 Weight Division
                    • 6 World Class Titles
                    • 50% of fights were Championship Fights


                    Cotto is Considered boxing’s best all-around fighter period.

                    Look @ his dominance over his opposition. Few fighters have ever been as statistically superior to his opponents than Cotto, who rarely loses rounds, much less fights. A recent CompuBox analysis determined that the “Cotto” leads the sport in “plus-minus” rating – and not by a little. The “plus-minus” is the difference between a fighter’s average connect percentage and that of his opponents, and Cotto plus-30 (46 percent to 16 percent)
                    Cotto’s rating compares favorably to the prime Roy Jones (plus-23) and Pernell Whitaker (plus-16). For the record



                    Now with all that Accomplish...Do you really think Cotto would not go into the Hall Fame if he doesnt fight people who was in his 4th Weight Division?????

                    Who has not done HALF of what he has done..!!!

                    I think not.

                    Now All of This I showed you, Is what Mayweather has done from 130 to 154.

                    what else can he do that will rise his status even higher than what it is now...????

                    • It's obvious people will never rate him as the best fighter ever
                    • he is already the greatest fighter of his generation...
                    • What else can he do...If he cant become the greatest fighter ever..??
                    • He is already the P4P BEST since 2005
                    • He is already the undisputed Lineal Champion
                    • He is already recognized around the world the best boxer alive
                    • He is already accomplish what no other fighter in history has never done
                    • The only thing he has left to accomplish is to be call the The Greatest of All Time
                    • If he cant accomplish the status of Greatest Fighter Ever Why continue to fight...
                    • It is obvious people will never give him that status so why continue fighting for something he already has... And that is the recognition as the best boxer alive and P4P best....




                    NOW YOU TELL ME WHAT HAS ANYBODY IN THE WELTER WEIGHT DIVISION COME CLOSE TO DOING WHAT MAYWEATHER HAS DONE..!!!


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                      #80
                      mayweather will never fight these men because he is a coward. thats the plain and basic common sense facts. you think haymon calls the shots???? mayweather can choose to fight whoever he wants and he always chose these easiest possible fight. he has always been afraid to fight the best.

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