Id like to see something other than your word that Floyd tried to make those fights. But lets forget about that for a second. How come he wouldn't clean out the division at 147? Why not call out Cotto AFTER he had established himself? Why not go after Paul Williams? How come he refused Margarito, but said he would fight him down the road only to retire? People want to know.
Why Margarito and Possibly Cotto, WILL NEVER FIGHT "MAYWEATHER"......
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Id like to see something other than your word that Floyd tried to make those fights. But lets forget about that for a second. How come he wouldn't clean out the division at 147? Why not call out Cotto AFTER he had established himself? Why not go after Paul Williams? How come he refused Margarito, but said he would fight him down the road only to retire? People want to know.
This forum doesn't have the right colors or fonts for Horus to give an honest answer,
or else he would have.Comment
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The problem with the "he would have beaten them anyway" logic is that applies to him in like every fight... he would be a favorite against anyone in his weight class right now, so...
Casamayor in particularly was the big one, because he had a huge amateur pedigree, and one of the three ABC belts (Freitas only had the WBO, which still wasn't that legit back then).
Honestly, those fights probably didn't get made because of money issues.Comment
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I am not Dios..Me and Dios dont even see eye 2 eye on certain ****., and Me and Dios have 2 completely different style, and argument appoarches..
NOW STOP DUCKING MY POST AND REPLY TO IT:
OR ADMIT THAT YOU ARE JUST A SIMPLE MINDED HATER AND NOTHING MAYWEATHER WILL DO TO SATISFY YOU, AND HATERS WHO THINK LIKE YOU,BECAUSE ALL YOU GUYS CANT ACCEPT HE IS THE BEST OF HIS GENERATION AND TRULY A GREAT FIGHTER AND A LEGEND IN HIS OWN RIGHT.
Why did Williams get no credit for beating a Margarito that beat a 30-1 Joshua Clottey and undefeated Kermit Cintron (Knock Artist) for the first time
(A PRIME Margarito)... when he had (the most feared man in the world tag)
.- A Margarito that only loss 1 fight in 10 years due to cuts....
- A Margarito that had the wbo ww title for six years...
- A Margarito that defended that title 8 times...
- A Margarito that was Hyped as "The baddest Muta****a On the planet
- A Margarito that no one would dare to stand toe to toe with...
- A Margarito that was even on some prominent boxing writers p4p list
Well guess what Happen Williams beat that Margarito...!!
and What did people think of Margarito after that fight????
- "aww He Is A Limited Fighter"
- "aww Lost To People Like Larry Dixon And He Got 4 Loses"
- "i Knew Margarito Was Overrated"
As a matter Of Proof, on How I know people like you will discredit Floyd after he would beat a fighter like Margarito...
Look how you discredit Floyd after Floyd beat Hatton...
A fighter that you had as the 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...p4p.
and this is after you HYPE hatton up as the Badd Ass Mutha****a
would Floyd never fight or Beat...!! TO the POINT WHERE YOU HAD ( HATTON RATED HIGHER ON YOUR P4P LIST)
This was my list from 5 days ago. I'm sticking with it:
10-28-2007, 07:41 PM
Wiley Hyena
Undisputed Champion
1. Pacquiao
2. Calzaghe
3. Hatton
4. Mayweather
5. Israel Vasquez
6. Pavlik
7. J. M. Marquez
8. Cotto
9. Mosely
10. Kessler
Edit: I'm willing to move Calderon in for Kessler after last night, but Kessler is still a big contender for p4p.
After Floyd beat Hatton You first Disappear for a while ..too the point where people where asking where you was...!!
Where is Wiley..?
After All the Praise you gave Hatton, You made him The 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...even HIGHER THAN MAYWEATHER.....
You thought Mayweather Would never Knockout Hatton... well guess what???
PBF not only beat Hatton he Knock him out..
So what did you do after that.... YOU ****ING DISAPPEARED..!!!!
and when you came back, you Had all kinds of excuses ready..!!!
You didnt give Floyd Full credit for a KNOCK OUT win....You immediately made excuses, and said how Mayweather is
ducking the next fighter you wanted to promote as the one who Floyd really really really doesnt want to fight..
So The Point of thIS is if Mayweather cant get credit for beating a fighter who you said was the 3rd best fighter in the world...Higher than what you currently have Margarito....
WE ALL KNOW HOW YOU will react if Floyd beat Margarito..
You will Disappear, and when you come back...You will Come back Making
all kinds of excuses just like you did with HATTON...
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Id like to see something other than your word that Floyd tried to make those fights. But lets forget about that for a second. How come he wouldn't clean out the division at 147? Why not call out Cotto AFTER he had established himself? Why not go after Paul Williams? How come he refused Margarito, but said he would fight him down the road only to retire? People want to know.
It really was just a money dispute I think, and neither side is completely faultless with it.
Man... it makes me feel damn good to get praise from you... I haven't run into you too many times in these forums (which is weird, because I see you post a lot, I guess we just do different topics), but you are extremely highly repped. I'll take that **** as a huge complement.Comment
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Dwiens what People dont understand is that Floyd called out Freitas and Casamayor and Challenge them..Neither of them wanted to fight..and neitehr of them return his call for a challenged. Like Floyd said, Before he moved up in weight to fight bigger names and get the stardom he wanted at the time...The same time when he was calling out De La Hoya, Mosely, and Hamed "They didnt want to fight"
I used to be the guy who was making defense of Floyd posts like you. I've seen all of his fights, listened to all of his post-fight interviews, etc.
I know he called them out.
I think both fights went to negotiation actually, but died when it came to how much money to allocate to the fighters.
I might be wrong.
I originally thought the same thing, but... they really aren't.
Just observe the language they use, sentence structure, posting style, etc.
They just aren't the same.
It took me a while to figure it out though.Comment
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I will say that I remember Mayweather calling both of them out after multiple fights at 130.
It really was just a money dispute I think, and neither side is completely faultless with it.
Man... it makes me feel damn good to get praise from you... I haven't run into you too many times in these forums (which is weird, because I see you post a lot, I guess we just do different topics), but you are extremely highly repped. I'll take that **** as a huge complement.Comment
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I am not Dios..Me and Dios dont even see eye 2 eye on certain ****., and Me and Dios have 2 completely different style, and argument appoarches..
NOW STOP DUCKING MY POST AND REPLY TO IT:
OR ADMIT THAT YOU ARE JUST A SIMPLE MINDED HATER AND NOTHING MAYWEATHER WILL DO TO SATISFY YOU, AND HATERS WHO THINK LIKE YOU,BECAUSE ALL YOU GUYS CANT ACCEPT HE IS THE BEST OF HIS GENERATION AND TRULY A GREAT FIGHTER AND A LEGEND IN HIS OWN RIGHT.
Why did Williams get no credit for beating a Margarito that beat a 30-1 Joshua Clottey and undefeated Kermit Cintron (Knock Artist) for the first time
(A PRIME Margarito)... when he had (the most feared man in the world tag)
.- A Margarito that only loss 1 fight in 10 years due to cuts....
- A Margarito that had the wbo ww title for six years...
- A Margarito that defended that title 8 times...
- A Margarito that was Hyped as "The baddest Muta****a On the planet
- A Margarito that no one would dare to stand toe to toe with...
- A Margarito that was even on some prominent boxing writers p4p list
Well guess what Happen Williams beat that Margarito...!!
and What did people think of Margarito after that fight????
- "aww He Is A Limited Fighter"
- "aww Lost To People Like Larry Dixon And He Got 4 Loses"
- "i Knew Margarito Was Overrated"
As a matter Of Proof, on How I know people like you will discredit Floyd after he would beat a fighter like Margarito...
Look how you discredit Floyd after Floyd beat Hatton...
A fighter that you had as the 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...p4p.
and this is after you HYPE hatton up as the Badd Ass Mutha****a
would Floyd never fight or Beat...!! TO the POINT WHERE YOU HAD ( HATTON RATED HIGHER ON YOUR P4P LIST)
After Floyd beat Hatton You first Disappear for a while ..too the point where people where asking where you was...!!
Where is Wiley..?
After All the Praise you gave Hatton, You made him The 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...even HIGHER THAN MAYWEATHER.....
You thought Mayweather Would never Knockout Hatton... well guess what???
PBF not only beat Hatton he Knock him out..
So what did you do after that.... YOU ****ING DISAPPEARED..!!!!
and when you came back, you Had all kinds of excuses ready..!!!
You didnt give Floyd Full credit for a KNOCK OUT win....You immediately made excuses, and said how Mayweather is
ducking the next fighter you wanted to promote as the one who Floyd really really really doesnt want to fight..
So The Point of thIS is if Mayweather cant get credit for beating a fighter who you said was the 3rd best fighter in the world...Higher than what you currently have Margarito....
WE ALL KNOW HOW YOU will react if Floyd beat Margarito..
You will Disappear, and when you come back...You will Come back Making
all kinds of excuses just like you did with HATTON...
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Why don't you ask me one question at a time? rofl You're getting a bit obsessive there, Dios. The fact is that nobody can deny Margarito after his destruction of Miguel Cotto. That was the most impressive thing anybody has done in WW in a long time. If Mayweather doesn't come out of hiding to finally take on Margarito, then he will confirm his ducking pedigree. And, his legacy will suffer for it.
The Fact is you said nobody can deny Hatton after he went 43-0.
The Fact is you said that Hatton is the 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...even HIGHER THAN MAYWEATHER.....
The Fact is You thought Mayweather Would never Knockout Hatton... well guess what??? PBF not only beat Hatton he Knock him out..
The Fact is a person like you, is what is wrong with Boxing...
You cant look at yourself in the mirror and admit when you are wrong..and
Man up and give people credit for **** you thought they couldnt do...
How can you Call Mayweather anything but GREAT..After Mayweather beat the person you thought was the 3 GREATEST FIGHTER in the world...Higher than what you got Margarito Right now...
The fact of the matter is, People like you wouldnt give credit to Mayweather if he beat ****ing A PRIME Sugar Ray Robinson....Just because your Hate wont let you...
So all your demands that Mayweather should fight this guy, and that guy...
Is a mute point because you will never give him credit anyways because. You represent alot what of these poster on boxing scene represent....
AVID HATERS, who will never give Mayweather respect no matter what he does..Comment
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The fact is People like you will Always Discredit Mayweather, Just like you did after the Hatton Fight..
The Fact is you said nobody can deny Hatton after he went 43-0.
The Fact is you said that Hatton is the 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...even HIGHER THAN MAYWEATHER.....
The Fact is You thought Mayweather Would never Knockout Hatton... well guess what??? PBF not only beat Hatton he Knock him out..
The Fact is a person like you, is what is wrong with Boxing...
You cant look at yourself in the mirror and admit when you are wrong..and
Man up and give people credit for **** you thought they couldnt do...
How can you Call Mayweather anything but GREAT..After Mayweather beat the person you thought was the 3 GREATEST FIGHTER in the world...Higher than what you got Margarito Right now...
The fact of the matter is, People like you wouldnt give credit to Mayweather if he beat ****ing A PRIME Sugar Ray Robinson....Just because your Hate wont let you...
So all your demands that Mayweather should fight this guy, and that guy...
Is a mute point because you will never give him credit anyways because. You represent alot what of these poster on boxing scene represent....
AVID HATERS, who will never give Mayweather respect no matter what he does..Comment
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