Why Margarito and Possibly Cotto, WILL NEVER FIGHT "MAYWEATHER"......

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  • Horus
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    #81
    Originally posted by Big Baby
    mayweather will never fight these men because he is a coward. thats the plain and basic common sense facts. you think haymon calls the shots???? mayweather can choose to fight whoever he wants and he always chose these easiest possible fight. he has always been afraid to fight the best.
    this is obviously an alt

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    • AntonTheMeh
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      #82
      Originally posted by Horus
      When did Arum do this...?
      cotto margarito.

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      • Danny Gunz
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        #83
        Originally posted by Horus
        Ok let me Give you a example that you can probaly relate to:
        Let's Put Cotto in Floyd's Shoes


        140: 1ST WEIGHT CLASS
        Let Say at the beginning Cotto's Career at 140,He Dominated the Division. He was Knocking out all top Contenders.
        To the Point that after only 2 years turning Pro Miguel Cotto was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Division

        Let Say He fought a 140 version of Genaro Hernandez who was 38-1-1 2 time World Champion. And The Reigning WBC world Champion. And The Ring Magazine Recognize World Champion of The Division.Who only Lost came from Oscar De La Hoya in which Oscar broke his in several places. Meaning He Couldnt breath.Which Happen 3 years Earlier
        .
        Let's Say in that Fight Cotto Dominated the Recognize Champion at 140. and Offically Became The WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.... not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but The Official Reconize WBC world Champion at 21 years old. And Now Recognize as The Ring Magazine number # 1 fighter in the division at 21 years old
        and #8 on P4P list out of all the fighters in the world.


        Let's Say His Next Fight right After that Fight Cotto beat the guy who they said and was RANKED number #2 in the division behind Cotto, And In that fight Cotto Knocks Him Out in the 2nd.Round.

        Let's Say now Cotto have now beaten 2 out of the top 4 fighters in the 140 division. all before the age Of 22.And the 3rd of those 4 fighters was (Roberto Garcia who was 31-0 with 23 Knock Outs.)
        And Cotto was about to fight Roberto Garcia, but Roberto Garcia decided to fight Knock Out Artist and Another P4P
        Phenomenal fighter in Diego Corrales.. Who out of 33 fights to that Point. only 5 fighters didnt get Knock Out. Roberto Garica was knock out in the 7th Round. Now Instead of Miguel Cotto Fighting Roberto Garica, he nows finds himself in the position
        of fighting the # 5 Pound 4 Pound fighter in the sport, and currently above Cotto as the # 1 fighter at 140...
        and Is a 2 to 1 Favorite to not only beat Cotto..But to Knock him out.

        Now Cotto Fights the #5 P4P fighter in the sport and #1 fighter in the division, and in the fight compellingly outclassed
        and Knocks out 140 verison of Diego Corrales in a 10 round 1 sided fight.

        Now Cotto Has Completely Clean out the 140 Division with 8 title defenses, with 6 of those fights ending in Knock out.
        Cotto at 140 now can not get a big name fighter to fight him from 135 or 140. NOBODY..and when big name fighters do get appoarch about fighting Cotto, they either demand a 55-45 split, or didnt return the call. So Cotto starts calling out all the big names Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya, everybody.
        But Nobody wanted to fight. So instead of staying at 140 where no other big names will fight him at 140 or at 135.


        147: 2ND WEIGHT CLASS

        Cotto decides to moved up to 147, and in his 1st Fight at 147 He fights the # 1 fighter in that Division ( 147 Version of JLC)A fighter that is recognize as the number # 1 body puncher in the sport. A Fighter who just made a named for himself
        by beating a fighter in Stevie Johnston.who was the Reconize #1 fighter at 147 and was p4p # 10 fighter in the sport.In a fight which everybody called it the 2000 Upset of the Year - Ring Magazine. And in that Fight Cotto damages his shoulder and reinjuried his right but stills pulls out the victory. This is the First Fight in Cotto's career in which he has been force to fight and he did not Dominate so people naturally said he lost.. So instead of Moving on with His close Victory He rematches this fighter.. and Completely outclasses him in the rematch, and leaves no doubts that the first fight was a enigma.

        Now Cotto finds Himself in the Same Position he has Found himself at 140, no big names want to fight him.So he defends his title 4 times..And in each Fight he calls out Oscar, Mosely, and any other big name that would give him the fame he wanted.
        Cotto is now Ranked p4p # 2 in the sport. But no big names to fight him to pull in a P.P.V audience.
        154: 3RD WEIGHT CLASS
        So Cotto Now Moves Up Again to 154 to finally fight a big name (154 version of gatti) In which Cotto Dominates Him..In a fight
        which finally Puts Cotto atop of the p4p Ranking...He is now # 1 in the sport.
        So at 154 they are 2 other undefeated fighters their (ricky hatton, and a young mayweather) Cotto calls both of them out..., and niether of them wanted to fight so instead doing what he did at 140 and 147 and
        defend the 154 title against contenders that will Put him in the same position that he was at 140, and 147..
        160: 4TH WEIGHT CLASS
        Cotto goes after another big name Name at 160. The Current Undisputed Middleweight Champion (THE 160 version Zab Judah) and p4p# 10
        fighter in the world. but before The Champion can fight Cotto, (THE 160 version Zab Judah) must defend his title against Mandatory challenger. A fighter who hasn't lost in 7 years and is a unknown. So the fight happens and the Champion loses his fight to the challenger. In which ****s up all of Cotto'a Plans.
        So Cotto Fights the Former Champion (160 Version of Zab Judah) anways and also fights the new lineal Middleweight Champion (160 Version of Baldomir) all
        the while calling out the biggest name in boxing the (Supermiddle Weight Version Of De La Hoya)

        168: 5TH WEIGHT CLASS
        Cotto Finally gets the fight of his dreams against the (Supermiddle Weight Version Of De La Hoya) and it is the fight That Finally gives Cotto what he has been looking for..
        Cross The Board FAME, along with recognized as the P4P best fighter in the sport for 4 years running.
        Cotto is outweight by 20 pounds come fight night against the the (Supermiddle Weight Version Of De La Hoya) but stills pulls out the victory.
        160
        Cotto then goes back down and fights the p4p# 8 Fighter in the sport,
        Undefeated, prime, (160 version of Ricky Hatton)
        Cotto knocks him out and now retires.....
        A Look Back at Cotto's Career

        MIDDLE WEIGHT CHAMP
        FORMER SUPERMIDDLE WEIGHT CHAMP
        FORMER JR. MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP
        FORMER WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP
        FORMER JR.WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP
        17-0-0, 8 KO’S IN CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS
        9-0-0 (6) at jr.WW .
        4-0-0 (1) at WW
        1-0-0 (1) at jr. MIDDLEWEIGHT.
        2-0-0 (0) at MIDDLEWEIGHT.
        1-0-0 (0) at SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT.
        17 CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 166 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 9.8 ROUNDS
        (63% of his pro rounds have been fought in championship fights)
        38 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 265 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 7.0 ROUNDS
        (45% of his fights have been championship fights)

        • Considered Greatest if His Generation
        • Undefeated
        • 39-0
        • 5 Weight Division
        • 6 World Class Titles
        • 50% of fights were Championship Fights


        Cotto is Considered boxing’s best all-around fighter period.

        Look @ his dominance over his opposition. Few fighters have ever been as statistically superior to his opponents than Cotto, who rarely loses rounds, much less fights. A recent CompuBox analysis determined that the “Cotto” leads the sport in “plus-minus” rating – and not by a little. The “plus-minus” is the difference between a fighter’s average connect percentage and that of his opponents, and Cotto plus-30 (46 percent to 16 percent)
        Cotto’s rating compares favorably to the prime Roy Jones (plus-23) and Pernell Whitaker (plus-16). For the record



        Now with all that Accomplish...Do you really think Cotto would not go into the Hall Fame if he doesnt fight people who was in his 4th Weight Division?????

        Who has not done HALF of what he has done..!!!

        I think not.

        Now All of This I showed you, Is what Mayweather has done from 130 to 154.

        what else can he do that will rise his status even higher than what it is now...????

        • It's obvious people will never rate him as the best fighter ever
        • he is already the greatest fighter of his generation...
        • What else can he do...If he cant become the greatest fighter ever..??
        • He is already the P4P BEST since 2005
        • He is already the undisputed Lineal Champion
        • He is already recognized around the world the best boxer alive
        • He is already accomplish what no other fighter in history has never done
        • The only thing he has left to accomplish is to be call the The Greatest of All Time
        • If he cant accomplish the status of Greatest Fighter Ever Why continue to fight...
        • It is obvious people will never give him that status so why continue fighting for something he already has... And that is the recognition as the best boxer alive and P4P best....




        NOW YOU TELL ME WHAT HAS ANYBODY IN THE WELTER WEIGHT DIVISION COME CLOSE TO DOING WHAT MAYWEATHER HAS DONE..!!!



        it doesnt matter that someone in the welterweight division other than floyd didnt clean out a bunch of divisions, the situation is that floyd before he retired was the best welterweight and im not arguin that i think that he was but when there were contenders waiting for the championship fight he retired. If he had fought and beat one of the 3 big names in the WW division and retired, in my eyes he has proven himself the best WW.

        I know he is one of the best fighters of our generation and how he cleaned out so many divisions impresses me too but there is still a question mark on the WW division for him.

        Im not a floyd hater at all i think floyds sick as **** and i think he would beat margarito and have a good chance at beating cotto and williams. But i feel like there is no way to deny that that he did not fight a real threat at welterweight.

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          #84
          Originally posted by boxer Q21
          it doesnt matter that someone in the welterweight division other than floyd didnt clean out a bunch of divisions, the situation is that floyd before he retired was the best welterweight and im not arguin that i think that he was but when there were contenders waiting for the championship fight he retired. If he had fought and beat one of the 3 big names in the WW division and retired, in my eyes he has proven himself the best WW.

          I know he is one of the best fighters of our generation and how he cleaned out so many divisions impresses me too but there is still a question mark on the WW division for him.

          Im not a floyd hater at all i think floyds sick as **** and i think he would beat margarito and have a good chance at beating cotto and williams. But i feel like there is no way to deny that that he did not fight a real threat at welterweight.
          Based on what fights exactly?

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            #85
            Originally posted by Pancho Gonzales
            Based on what fights exactly?
            Rofl!.............good response.

            Yes, please show us any fight that indicates that Mayweather can handle a true top flight WW. Personally, I can only think of one: Oscar DeLaHoya. And, DLH was a just shell of what he once was when he fought Floyd.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              Rofl!.............good response.

              Yes, please show us any fight that indicates that Mayweather can handle a true top flight WW. Personally, I can only think of one: Oscar DeLaHoya. And, DLH was a just shell of what he once was when he fought Floyd.
              well when he retired floyd deserved to be called the best welterweight over margarito and cotto, but he lost that claim when he didnt step up to the plate and fight them

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                #87
                I think you meant: Why Mayweather will NEVER fight Cotto or Margarito.

                He is a running/retiring *****-man and you are a hugger without a hero. How sad...



                Wanted: A boxing hero who needs a grade A ****ster who will always be there even when you are being a blatant *****. Email me at HorusBlows****s@gmail.com

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by boxer Q21
                  well when he retired floyd deserved to be called the best welterweight over margarito and cotto, but he lost that claim when he didnt step up to the plate and fight them
                  Based on what?

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Pancho Gonzales
                    Based on what?
                    based on the fact that he had beaten carlos baldomir to take the WBC welterweight belt then beat ricky hatton and oscar which were legitimate fights and margarito just came off his loss against paul williams so he was out of the picture and cotto was just a rising name along with williams making floyd the best welterweight... do you seriously not think he was when he retired?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by boxer Q21
                      based on the fact that he had beaten carlos baldomir to take the WBC welterweight belt then beat ricky hatton and oscar which were legitimate fights and margarito just came off his loss against paul williams so he was out of the picture and cotto was just a rising name along with williams making floyd the best welterweight... do you seriously not think he was when he retired?
                      So a win over Carlos Baldomir who every other welter would beat, a win over a jr. lightweight, and a win over the same DLH who is fighting a LW in his next fight is

                      BETTER

                      than fights with Williams, Clottey, Cintron, and Cotto, in Margaritos case?


                      The guy never once defended the title against a legit welter, how does that make him the best?

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