Why Margarito and Possibly Cotto, WILL NEVER FIGHT "MAYWEATHER"......

[Vasyl’s dad]

Right....

Mayweather never 20 or 30 something fights into his career, Let alone 60 fights or 70 fights or 80 fights in his carrer would fight fighters who record is

1. Ignacio Pedromo 1-0-0
2. Russell Mosley 4-3-1
3. Akwei Addo 5-3-0
4. Ramon Aramburu 0-0-0
5. Delfino Mendoza 1-6-0
6. Ramon Avitia 135 3-3-0
7. Armando Flores 0-0-1

You mean to tell me Chavez for the most part of 1984-1993 Chavez had nobody to fight besides these guys and more???

I wasn't his promoter then, but do tell of the big fights he took at that time.

You can pick and choose all you want at Chavez career, but the fact remains, he fought pretty much every big name he was supposed to win or lose.

Floyd didn't and he retired.

[Fox McCloud]

I didn't know Julio fought those guys to avoid the best fighters in and around his weights.

Try again.




People don't mind tune ups, but when that is part of the heart of your claim to greatness, its a mighty big failure.

Julio fought who he was supposed to, win or lose.

Floyd retired instead.


So again, what did those fights do for his legacy?

Not to nitpick, but...

Chavez-Randall III came YEARS too late. That was the one fight he skipped out on that really needed to happen.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Not to nitpick, but...

Chavez-Randall III came YEARS too late. That was the one fight he skipped out on that really needed to happen.

and look at what fight it was, III.


Floyd has yet to have a I with certain fighters.

[JAB5239]

I'm not sure about that...

He did beat a champion in Hernandez, another champion (even though he had vacated) and P4P fighter in Corrales and an upcomer in Chavez, but...

There was Freitas and Casamayor in 130.

I'm not saying his resume ******, at all, it's really good at 130, but... He didn't unify past one belt.

Wow, for some reason I forgot those guys were there at that time. No matter though, he still took on excellent comp at that weight and I have no doubt he would have trumped Joel and Acelino as well. I don't get that feeling with him at welterweight though and it seems he wants all the best to fight each other before he takes on the last man standing. That is not my idea of a great fighter no matter5 how you spin it.

[Horus]

Horus is owned again.............rofl

How About you Owned this Post and Reply to it...

Are you insane? Margarito is the legitimate WW titlist and destroyed Cotto to get it. NOBODY destroys Miguel Cotto. Margarito did. Margarito is at the top of his game and name right now. He is punishing and relentless and his credentials after the Cotto fight are sparkling. Don't be a fool, Horus. Mayweather beating Margarito right now would go far in answering alot of lingering questions about Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

Why did Williams get no credit for beating a Margarito that beat a 30-1 Joshua Clottey and undefeated Kermit Cintron (Knock Artist) for the first time
(A PRIME Margarito)... when he had (the most feared man in the world tag)
.

• A Margarito that only loss 1 fight in 10 years due to cuts....
• A Margarito that had the wbo ww title for six years...
• A Margarito that defended that title 8 times...
• A Margarito that was Hyped as "The baddest Muta****a On the planet
• A Margarito that no one would dare to stand toe to toe with...
• A Margarito that was even on some prominent boxing writers p4p list

Well guess what Happen Williams beat that Margarito...!!
and What did people think of Margarito after that fight????

• "aww He Is A Limited Fighter"
• "aww Lost To People Like Larry Dixon And He Got 4 Loses"
• "i Knew Margarito Was Overrated"

As a matter Of Proof, on How I know people like you will discredit Floyd after he would beat a fighter like Margarito...
Look how you discredit Floyd after Floyd beat Hatton...

A fighter that you had as the 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...p4p.
and this is after you HYPE hatton up as the Badd Ass Mutha****a
would Floyd never fight or Beat...!! TO the POINT WHERE YOU HAD ( HATTON RATED HIGHER ON YOUR P4P LIST)

This was my list from 5 days ago. I'm sticking with it:

10-28-2007, 07:41 PM
Wiley Hyena
Undisputed Champion


1. Pacquiao
2. Calzaghe
3. Hatton
4. Mayweather
5. Israel Vasquez
6. Pavlik
7. J. M. Marquez
8. Cotto
9. Mosely
10. Kessler

Edit: I'm willing to move Calderon in for Kessler after last night, but Kessler is still a big contender for p4p.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2802804&highlight=Hatton+list#post2802804

If anything Hatton is underrated. 43-0 WW Champ and people still doubt his skills in the ring. It doesn't make sense, especially if you've actually seen him fight.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2788538

After Floyd beat Hatton You first Disappear for a while ..too the point where people where asking where you was...!!

Where is Wiley..?

Where is Wiley Hyena who had Hatton over mayweather on his p4p list BEFORE the Dec. 8th bout.

Let's just put it this way. He had Hatton ranked higher than Floyd on the p4p list BEFORE december 8th.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3417905&highlight=Wiley+Hyena#post3417905

After All the Praise you gave Hatton, You made him The 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...even HIGHER THAN MAYWEATHER.....
You thought Mayweather Would never Knockout Hatton... well guess what???
PBF not only beat Hatton he Knock him out..

So what did you do after that.... YOU ****ING DISAPPEARED..!!!!
and when you came back, you Had all kinds of excuses ready..!!!

You didnt give Floyd Full credit for a KNOCK OUT win....You immediately made excuses, and said how Mayweather is
ducking the next fighter you wanted to promote as the one who Floyd really really really doesnt want to fight..


So The Point of thIS is if Mayweather cant get credit for beating a fighter who you said was the 3rd best fighter in the world...Higher than what you currently have Margarito....

WE ALL KNOW HOW YOU will react if Floyd beat Margarito..
You will Disappear, and when you come back...You will Come back Making
all kinds of excuses just like you did with HATTON...

[Fox McCloud]

Wow, for some reason I forgot those guys were there at that time. No matter though, he still took on excellent comp at that weight and I have no doubt he would have trumped Joel and Acelino as well. I don't get that feeling with him at welterweight though and it seems he wants all the best to fight each other before he takes on the last man standing. That is not my idea of a great fighter no matter5 how you spin it.

The problem with the "he would have beaten them anyway" logic is that applies to him in like every fight... he would be a favorite against anyone in his weight class right now, so...

Casamayor in particularly was the big one, because he had a huge amateur pedigree, and one of the three ABC belts (Freitas only had the WBO, which still wasn't that legit back then).

Honestly, those fights probably didn't get made because of money issues.

[Horus]

The problem with the "he would have beaten them anyway" logic is that applies to him in like every fight... he would be a favorite against anyone in his weight class right now, so...

Casamayor in particularly was the big one, because he had a huge amateur pedigree, and one of the three ABC belts (Freitas only had the WBO, which still wasn't that legit back then).

Honestly, those fights probably didn't get made because of money issues.

Dwiens what People dont understand is that Floyd called out Freitas and Casamayor and Challenge them..Neither of them wanted to fight..and neitehr of them return his call for a challenged. Like Floyd said, Before he moved up in weight to fight bigger names and get the stardom he wanted at the time...The same time when he was calling out De La Hoya, Mosely, and Hamed "They didnt want to fight"

[Danny Gunz]

How About you Owned this Post and Reply to it...

Why did Williams get no credit for beating a Margarito that beat a 30-1 Joshua Clottey and undefeated Kermit Cintron (Knock Artist) for the first time
(A PRIME Margarito)... when he had (the most feared man in the world tag)
.

• A Margarito that only loss 1 fight in 10 years due to cuts....
• A Margarito that had the wbo ww title for six years...
• A Margarito that defended that title 8 times...
• A Margarito that was Hyped as "The baddest Muta****a On the planet
• A Margarito that no one would dare to stand toe to toe with...
• A Margarito that was even on some prominent boxing writers p4p list

Well guess what Happen Williams beat that Margarito...!!
and What did people think of Margarito after that fight????

• "aww He Is A Limited Fighter"
• "aww Lost To People Like Larry Dixon And He Got 4 Loses"
• "i Knew Margarito Was Overrated"

As a matter Of Proof, on How I know people like you will discredit Floyd after he would beat a fighter like Margarito...
Look how you discredit Floyd after Floyd beat Hatton...

A fighter that you had as the 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...p4p.
and this is after you HYPE hatton up as the Badd Ass Mutha****a
would Floyd never fight or Beat...!! TO the POINT WHERE YOU HAD ( HATTON RATED HIGHER ON YOUR P4P LIST)

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2802804&highlight=Hatton+list#post2802804

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2788538

After Floyd beat Hatton You first Disappear for a while ..too the point where people where asking where you was...!!

Where is Wiley..?

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3417905&highlight=Wiley+Hyena#post3417905

After All the Praise you gave Hatton, You made him The 3rd BEST FIGHTER in the ENTIRE WORLD...even HIGHER THAN MAYWEATHER.....
You thought Mayweather Would never Knockout Hatton... well guess what???
PBF not only beat Hatton he Knock him out..

So what did you do after that.... YOU ****ING DISAPPEARED..!!!!
and when you came back, you Had all kinds of excuses ready..!!!

You didnt give Floyd Full credit for a KNOCK OUT win....You immediately made excuses, and said how Mayweather is
ducking the next fighter you wanted to promote as the one who Floyd really really really doesnt want to fight..


So The Point of thIS is if Mayweather cant get credit for beating a fighter who you said was the 3rd best fighter in the world...Higher than what you currently have Margarito....

WE ALL KNOW HOW YOU will react if Floyd beat Margarito..
You will Disappear, and when you come back...You will Come back Making
all kinds of excuses just like you did with HATTON...

goottttt eeemmmmmm

[Wiley Hyena]

Horus is Dios Dominicos. Hello, Dios.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Dwiens what People dont understand is that Floyd called out Freitas and Casamayor and Challenge them..Neither of them wanted to fight..and neitehr of them return his call for a challenged. Like Floyd said, Before he moved up in weight to fight bigger names and get the stardom he wanted at the time...The same time when he was calling out De La Hoya, Mosely, and Hamed "They didnt want to fight"

Margarito challenged Mayweather.

Mayweather didn't want to fight.