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  • #41
    Originally posted by S.G. View Post
    it was bull****

    paulie was in no serious danger... should have at least waited until he hit the canvas
    Why? So he could get hurt more in a losing effort?
    Ray Charles could see he was losing bad and could not hurt Ricky even a little bit.
    If the fight continued and Paulie got stopped or KO'd, McGirt would have been the fool. He warned PM and followed through. See compu-box, it recorded that Paulie landed like 1 punch in the final round. That is hardly showing McGirt anything. He was trying to survive only and he paid the price for it. Too bad, go and fight and you will be in a position to finish a fight, simple as that.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by mickey gomez View Post
      And why did he leave it so late?

      Thoughts?
      yes because paulie wasn't doing **** anyways.

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      • #43
        Not Sure. He was taking a lot of punishment and had no chance of winning. Even he admitted that he had no chance of winning in the post-fight interview. He said he just didn't want to get ko'd.

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        • #44
          He saw that Hatton was about to give Paulie a beat down and Paulie was pretty much defenseless, with way too much time left in the round. He protected his fighter. He did the right thing.

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          • #45
            I agree, just wasting buddy's and everyones time when he threw nothing in the 11th the round, after he was warned of it being stopped.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by timba1988 View Post
              People can talk all they want about Paulies pride being hurt, but with no chance of winning the fight, throwing nothing and taking a solid beating, his trainer was right to throw in the towel.

              The only thing I find weird is that his trainer did not throw in the towel vs Cotto.

              Overall it was a good stoppage. One punch can end a fighters life, so there is no need to let a fighter get beaten up for the sake of his pride. How proud would he be if he was blind or in a wheelchair?
              Paulie's pride is what makes him a fighter. No telling how it will effect him emotionally. He was brutally beaten by Cotto, a more punishing fight, and he was still able to spit funny b.s. despite that loss. Why? because he went 12 with Cotto and he was allowed to.

              One could easily argue that fight should have been stopped.



              YOU DIDN'T KNOCK ME DOWN RAY; YOU DIDN'T KNOCK ME DOWN


              There's Pride among groups like the Italians and the Irish that even if you get your ass beat, as long as you are standing or didn't throw in the towel, your cool.

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              • #47
                Plus Buddy prob knew Hatton would go all out in the 12th round for a knockout and would prob find it.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by MoneyMay View Post
                  Plus Buddy prob knew Hatton would go all out in the 12th round for a knockout and would prob find it.
                  So let Paulie go down...and then, mabye, stop the fight.

                  This might be Paulie's last fight so why not let him go out the way he wants too?

                  Now he might have to stay in the ring to prove a point.

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                  • #49
                    Yeah I wouldn't have stopped it but it is an interesting conundrum, and depends very much on the relationship between boxer and trainer. Paulie should have made it very clear to McGirt that he didn't want to throw the towel in unless, for instance, he was knocked down a few times.

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                    • #50
                      I felt bad for Malignaggi, and even though logic says that one should intelligently stop a fight when the losing fighter is way behind on the scorecards, taking a beating AND doesn't have the power to pull out an out-of-the-blue knockout, I watched the fight and thought it shouldn't have been stopped.

                      I felt really bad for Malignaggi, he was clearly upset (and emotionally hurt) after the fight. Wasn't he crying (or on the verge of) when talking with Mayweather, Sr? He's mad as hell with McGirt, and after the interview he mentioned the worse beating he took with Cotto, but maybe one can make a case for that fight, because he was actually winning some rounds.

                      I dunno, it's another situation where people will be torn, and it's sad that boxing encounters these problems. Bute/Andrade...same thing.

                      Stoppage arguments.

                      Last night's loss was officially a TKO loss for him, but he can still keep his head up since Hatton never knocked him down, and his losses have come against two highly touted fighters, and he's shown that he can hang in there with them. It's just unfortunate that he doesn't have the extraordinary technique required to compensate for a serious lack of power (like Calderón for example).

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