If Mayweather was to beat only ONE of the big 3 WW's, would you be satisfied?

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  • Benny Leonard
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    #21
    Originally posted by Terrible...
    top 10 ATG

    the guys best win is a 34 year old ODLH with 5 losses the rest of his record is padded up with solid wins but nothing spectacular
    Look who Oscar lost to and then look over Floyd's resume.

    What's a spectacular opponent?

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    • Dynamite Kid
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      #22
      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
      Look who Oscar lost to and then look over Floyd's resume.

      What's a spectacular opponent?
      point is ODLH was well past his best and he is the only elite fighter he has fought

      not B Class fighters like
      Gatti,Mitchell,Baldy,Hernandez,Manfredy,Gerena,Sos a ,etc etc etc

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      • My Name Is...
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        #23
        Okay, well SKILL WISE Is he a top 10 ATG?

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        • Naz Fan
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          #24
          Floyd beats Cotto, Margarito and Williams

          The hardest test for him out of those fighters would be Cotto. The other two would be easy work.

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          • Benny Leonard
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            #25
            Originally posted by Terrible...
            point is ODLH was well past his best and he is the only elite fighter he has fought

            not B Class fighters like
            Gatti,Mitchell,Baldy,Hernandez,Manfredy,Gerena,Sos a ,etc etc etc
            Chico was like the George Foreman of the lightweights when Floyd beat him. Floyd took an undefeated lightweight Foreman to school.

            You don't think Castillo was good in his prime?

            And Hatton is just a solid win...no more? Maybe.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Benny Leonard
              Chico was like the George Foreman of the lightweights when Floyd beat him. Floyd took an undefeated lightweight Foreman to school.

              You don't think Castillo was good in his prime?

              And Hatton is just a solid win...no more? Maybe.


              Castillo,Hatton,Corrales are all on the same level imo but they are not elite for me

              BTW i thought Corrales was clearly wieght drained

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              • Benny Leonard
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                #27
                Originally posted by Haye-Fan
                Floyd beats Cotto, Margarito and Williams

                The hardest test for him out of those fighters would be Cotto. The other two would be easy work.
                Cotto, really?

                Cotto was stunned in many fights already...including against Shane.

                I think Williams would be the toughest. Margarito is tough but he is slow and wide open. Williams keeps punching and punching and has those long arms and is 7'6 tall.

                Although, if Floyd doesn't go back to the way he used to fight, and just pot-shots and stays still...I don't know if he pulls it off. He has to move like he did against Chico.

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                • Benny Leonard
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Terrible...
                  Castillo,Hatton,Corrales are all on the same level imo but they are not elite for me

                  BTW i thought Corrales was clearly wieght drained
                  That's been said...could be, but he did have more fights at 130.

                  Who would be elite?

                  I thought the same with Hopkins and Calzaghe. Hopkins best win at middleweight is arguably Tito; a former Welter. Tarver was deflated and Pavlik still counts as a middleweight, which does boost Hopkins legacy as far as a Middleweight. Calzaghe, best win against Kessler, who I don't see as "elite." but is a good fighter and a solid win.

                  They will get credit for clearing out their divisions...not sure how much more or where they would rank in the top 100.

                  Jones Jr: great talent...I guess Hopkins, Toney, and Ruiz are good enough to put him somewhere. He might be the most gifted fighter of all time in boxing.

                  It's hard to say. We would have to break down the list of the top 100, which varies.
                  Last edited by Benny Leonard; 11-18-2008, 08:40 PM.

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                  • luv3s2sp00g3
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                    #29
                    Let's not forget that Floyd has already moved up 4 weight divisions to even be fighting at welterweight at all. Moving up that much and still being considered p4p top dog should say something about his legacy in the ATG talks already.

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                      #30
                      by big 3, who do you mean? (1) Williams, (2) Margarito and... (3) Cotto?

                      to me, the only win of those three that would be impressive would be Williams. we know he's way too fast for Margarito and would stop Cotto

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