Tyson was never the same after he got out of jail

[Benny Leonard]

Putting Bruno away for a second time didn't require 'Prime' abilities. The moment the bell rang it was obvious he was absolutely terrified. He just stood there like a rabbit trapped in an onrushing car's headlights - waiting for the end to come.

All the more confusing when you consider the sheer size and physique of Bruno. The man had less reason than most Tyson opponents to be scared (his knockout percentage was phenomenal and he had the kind of jab most boxers would kill for).

I heard it went back to when Bruno met a young Tyson in sparring and encountered a terror.

Plus, you have to remember that first fight carried over to the second. Bruno knew what was coming.

Frank looked more scared against Tyson than he did Lewis.

The thing is, Bruno was even buffer in the second fight and it couldn't build his confidence.

I think people forget Tyson was only 5'11, 220, so it had to be something that made people fear him. Could it be his talent?

[dde91]

Once Cus D'Amato died, thats when tysons career died. He was his father figure. Mike Tyson was controlled with Cus because he knew how to handle him, and Tyson knew Cus wouldn't do nothing bad to him. When Cus died, Tyson was at his grave for days, crying and moping. Then after that, thats when we see the Mike we see today. The mean crazy Mike. He let all his anger out and he doesn't know how to control himself, and nobody knew how to control him after Cus died. It ****** to watch all his talent go to waste.

[Mugwump]

D'Amato used Tyson as much as any. The difference was he had little interest in his money. He wanted another titlist.

If Mike had slipped up at any point on his road to that title D'Amato would have dropped him like a stone.

[boxing_great]

D'Amato used Tyson as much as any. The difference was he had little interest in his money. He wanted another titlist.

If Mike had slipped up at any point on his road to that title D'Amato would have dropped him like a stone.

that's absurd what your saying!
How can cuz be greedy?? and want another world champion..
So i guess ITS GREEDY FOR A TRAINER TO WANT TO PRODUCE a world champion???

[MANGLER]

****in ***** Robin Givens is what really ****ed him up. Golddiggin ****.

[Mugwump]

that's absurd what your saying!
How can cuz be greedy?? and want another world champion..
So i guess ITS GREEDY FOR A TRAINER TO WANT TO PRODUCE a world champion???

I never mentioned the word "greed".

[dde91]

D'Amato used Tyson as much as any. The difference was he had little interest in his money. He wanted another titlist.

If Mike had slipped up at any point on his road to that title D'Amato would have dropped him like a stone.

So he adopted him but would have dropped him? Pretty dumb if you ask me. He practically raised Mike in his teenage years. He was a father figure.

[Benny Leonard]

So he adopted him but would have dropped him? Pretty dumb if you ask me. He practically raised Mike in his teenage years. He was a father figure.

Yes, but he is kind of right: Cus wanted to build a Great Champion; the Youngest HW Champion. That's something to remember in history and Cus wanted to be a part of that. He let Tyson in because of his natural talent and size. He put Teddy on Mike to build a Champion. Mike would get in trouble and Teddy would want to discipline him and Cus would let it go...which he had never done in the past...according to Teddy. Cus was going against his own principles for the sake of having One last "Great" fighter that would make Cus remembered. Cus thought Mike could truly be the Greatest ever as long as Mike stays the course and stays motivated.

This isn't to say Cus didn't care for him, because I do think he did...just like a lot of trainers/mentors can start to build that type of relationship with their young fighters.

You can say that Cus's fighters were his kids.

Torres and Patterson all said Cus cared for them; that's the type of person he was. Rooney was close with him as well and had great respect for him.

I think in the end, Teddy felt betrayed Cus sold out his own values for the sake of this young brute named Mike Tyson. But Cus was desperate at his age.

[Mugwump]

So he adopted him but would have dropped him? Pretty dumb if you ask me. He practically raised Mike in his teenage years. He was a father figure.

Read Donald McRae's DARK TRADE. It talks in depth about Tyson's formative years. How he was lied to and fleeced by Jim Jacobs and Bill Cayton. How D'Amato manipulated Tyson's feelings toward women. How Tyson once broke down during an amateur contest - floods of tears - because he feared losing and being sent back to the streets by Cus.

With friends like those it's no wonder he turned into a screwball.

[JAB5239]

Tyson was never the same after hiring on Don King and getting rid of Kevin Rooney. It goes further back than prison, though that little stretch did him no favors either.