Is Calzaghe the Greatest of All Time?

[Naps]

this is laughable.......

Are you ****in kidding me?

This long thread is waste of my time after the topic their is no need 2 read the rest . N peace

LMFAO!!!!
wonder what they would've said about hatton if he retired before fighting floyd

The TS stated plenty of argument both for and against the original statement. Unless you match his effort, then your one lazy one line efforts hold no water.

State WHY, and open up discussion, or stop padding your post counts with slapdash comments which offer no objectivity.

[Akyra]

well, not of all time, but certainly the second best of our generation. he whooped roy jones, hopkins and lacy. not to mention he's undefeated. ^_^

he is an elite fighter. no one could beat him, that speaks for itself. O_O

[Freddy Krueger]

White fighters can't be great, just ask some posters or better yet ask Floyd Mayweather Jr if a white boxer can be great.

[Wiley Hyena]

White fighters can't be great, just ask some posters or better yet ask Floyd Mayweather Jr if a white boxer can be great.

Calzaghe is white? Oh. I thought he was Irish.

[Dr. Ironfist]

This is ridiculous. Why is this even posed as a question? Only explanation is the OP is out of his mind. I mean, seriously? Of course Joe is the GOAT. How can one even question it.

Here are the reasons Joe is the greatest of all time.

1. He never lost. Dont let people fool you when they say, "a fighter who never lost never fought anyone..." Thats garbage, no one wants to lose and Joe's legacy is somewhat tainted by having not lost. The reason why Ali is considered so great is because he lost to Frazier. Without losing to Frazier, the Foreman fight, nor the other 2 Frazier fights would have been anything. Joe loses to Mario Veit when Veit was 30-0 and then beats veit at 45-0...Joe would be considered better today than he is. Joe's opponents never looked good either. Ali made Chuck Wepner and Henry Cooper look like the Klitschko's.

2. Joe beat Roy and Bhop. Dont give me that old excuse. Excuses are for cowards. Bhop is better now than he was 8 years ago and Roy isnt nearly as bad as people say. If youre old you should retire. Im sorry, theres no mathematical way to judge someones prime so I dont buy it. Ask an Ali fan when Ali's prime was and youll get a prime that actually skips years and goes fight to fight. Its a joke. He beat Roy and he beat Bhop. Bhop is still on p4p top 10 lists, and I guarantee after the super 6 Kessler will be too.

3. He fought anyone he could. Dont tell me he ducked people and retired. Dawson brought nothing to the table...nothing. If he beat Dawson then dawsons a bum. People did the same thing with lacy. Lacy was unbeatable and then Joe beat him and then he's a bum...Dawson would be the same thing and would not help Joe's legacy whatsoever.

4. He had a 70% ko rate. Was knocked down 4 times in his entire career and 0 times until his mid 30's. He beat guys who frequent great lists for their weight class. He beat Eubank, who beat Benn who Jones ducked. He tried to fight Collins but Collins reretired. He beat Jones and he beat Bhop. And with every win Kessler gets Joe looks a bit better. He beat Veit twice within his first 46 fights when no one else had beaten him.

5. He had more title defenses than Marciano, and Marciano would not be able to compete in boxing today. Marciano's biggest opponent while holding the title was 5'11 205...Joe we know can compete today. 0 accusations of cheating or anything like that. Unlike people like Ali who were known cheaters.

[Abstraction]

LMFAO.

Joe Calzaghe does not need critiscs.

His Fans destroy his reputation more than anyone else!!

"He Beat Jeff Lacy" ....lol!

"Past his best Calzaghe beat Hopkins and Roy Jones" ....lol!

"He beat Jeff Lacy" ...lol!

"He is undefeated" ...So is Ottke? Is he 'S3c0nD B3$t Evar!!11' ?

"He beat Jeff Lacy" ...

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In all seriousness, i cant rate anyone who's best wins are against Lacy (who btw i last heard was schooled by Taylor and a shot to bits RJJ), Mikkel "I only face Tomato cans in Denmark" Kessler and taking a very dodgy Split Decision against a 43 year old.

In fact i rate Hatton more than him. Atleast he went Prime v Prime with the best. He may have got KO'd but atleast he faced the best at SOME POINT in his career. Unlike Joe Fraudslappy.

[Benncollinsaad]

Calzaghe is white? Oh. I thought he was Irish.

Welsh and Italian. I thought everybody knew that. He isn't the best of all time, but certainly one of the best. And the best in his era. However Kessler was a close second and is now the best at 168.

[Wiley Hyena]

Welsh and Italian. I thought everybody knew that. He isn't the best of all time, but certainly one of the best. And the best in his era. However Kessler was a close second and is now the best at 168.

What do you get when you breed Italian and Welsh? Irish. I thought everybody knew that.......but for God's sake DON'T CALL HIM "WHITE". It would ruin his reputation.

[hugh grant]

JC will be underestimated by many. And i feel he wasnt as ambitious as he could have been. But he achieved all he set out to achieve and more so even.
Noone was able to figure him out. Not even BH in America. JC gave you the chance to beat him, but noone could.
He had to perform on the night and he always did. He always produced the goods, even when he wasnt 100%.

There have been too many greats in boxing. But you could put JC somewhere comfortably somewhere up there.

[Benncollinsaad]

What do you get when you breed Italian and Welsh? Irish. I thought everybody knew that.......but for God's sake DON'T CALL HIM "WHITE". It would ruin his reputation.

Interesting theory. I didn't call him WHITE, but I rather think he identifies as being of that race.