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  • BoxingScribe
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    #121
    Originally posted by OptimusWolf
    I don't get why fighters like Williams claim and alphabet title then go on to fight once every 6 months, claiming they are ducked or whatever. Build a career out of fighting every 3 months until you are p4p then the real money will undoubtedly flow as you'll be the guy everyone wants to beat.

    I mean williams has got a needed rubber against quintana to get on and then he can see who is available to fight.
    Ok, another argument that goes in the toilet. Williams is about to have his 4th fight this year. Williams had 1 fight last year with Margarito. In 06 he had 4 fights. He had 3 fights in 05. 4 fights in 04. Now lets look at Margarito. Margarito had 2 fights in 08. 2 fights in 07. 2 fights in 06. 2 fights in 05. 2 fights in 04. 2 fights in 3. See a pattern here? While Williams averages 4 fights a year, Margarito fights half as much.

    Your argument is now moot and only applies to Margarito.

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    • ANDROID_DOES
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      #122
      Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
      I actully think Wright deseves around 65-35, Williams could accept it or beg for fights, Hed can finish off his career like David Tua, Williams fighting nonames with Goosens sorry promotions nowadays
      oh don't be silly! it should be 65-35 for paul williams. I mean why would paul make less money than someone that has fought a tito trinidad, a shane mosley, a fernando Vargas, an ike quarte, a jermain taylor, and a bernard hopkins? It's obvious paul is the draw here, and lets be honest with ourself even though none of the fighters i just mentioned never came close to even hurt winky paul the punisher would stop him in 7.

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      • ANDROID_DOES
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        #123
        Originally posted by deanrw


        he looks dejected.
        that's my new sig.

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        • BoxingScribe
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          #124
          Originally posted by OptimusWolf
          I don't get why fighters like Williams claim and alphabet title then go on to fight once every 6 months, claiming they are ducked or whatever. Build a career out of fighting every 3 months until you are p4p then the real money will undoubtedly flow as you'll be the guy everyone wants to beat.

          I mean williams has got a needed rubber against quintana to get on and then he can see who is available to fight.
          Are you talkin about the same alphabet title Fraudgarito had for about 4 years until Williams took it from him? And as I said in the previous resposne, Williams fights 4 times a year. margarito fights twice a year. Do your homework.

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          • Tha_Greatest
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            #125
            Originally posted by BoxingScribe
            Ok, what is your point? Margarito has carried none of those cards on his name alone. Each one of those fights was a Top Rank fight with another star Top Rank fighter on the card. On the other hand, Williams has been the star of each of his cards and the ONLY star on his card. Margarito couldnt fill a high school cafeteria on his let alone a venue by himself.

            And at the end of the day, Williams beat Margarito. Margarito passed on a $4million dollar career high payday to AVOID a fighter who beat him. Do you have anything besides "Williams slapped his way to victory" to say about that?
            Williams was the only star, exactly, Goosen Tutor Offers bad venues, bad cards cause no body wants to deal with Goosen, If Williams had a brain , hed leave Goosen so he can be in good cards and Pauls bad unkown name wouldnt have to carry these awful Goosen cards,

            If that dont happen and Paul is still with Goosen, you will still be getting angry at Rogelio for Williams not getting to fight with Margarito, If Williams signs with Arums Top Rank, Bob Arum can make a deal for Marg Will easy and Williams doesnt have to obsess on every career move of marg, or complain about any Margarito quote(Not having to do with Williams but Williams still responds like if hes a Margarito spokeperson)

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              #126
              Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
              seriously is that best you can do? I think your running out of options because everytime i shut down your pathetic claims you become a little repetitive. You still haven't answered three question which you keep ducking and dodgin.
              1. why do you post as an alt?
              2. Whos the bigger draw margarito or williams?
              3. If margarito is a no name and williams already beat him why does william continue to cry about a fight with margarito? and the attention he gets?

              please answer.
              still waiting.

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                #127
                Boring

                Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
                oh don't be silly! it should be 65-35 for paul williams. I mean why would paul make less money than someone that has fought a tito trinidad, a shane mosley, a fernando Vargas, an ike quarte, a jermain taylor, and a bernard hopkins? It's obvious paul is the draw here, and lets be honest with ourself even though none of the fighters i just mentioned never came close to even hurt winky paul the punisher would stop him in 7.
                Wright is an excellent defensive fighter, but lets face it ..defense doesnt sell.
                Wright bigger name, Williams more action. Like The first heavyweight latino champion of the world Ruiz...he was boring as hell to watch.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
                  oh don't be silly! it should be 65-35 for paul williams. I mean why would paul make less money than someone that has fought a tito trinidad, a shane mosley, a fernando Vargas, an ike quarte, a jermain taylor, and a bernard hopkins? It's obvious paul is the draw here, and lets be honest with ourself even though none of the fighters i just mentioned never came close to even hurt winky paul the punisher would stop him in 7.
                  Winky, whom I have met personally, is a nice dude, and is one of my favorite fighters asked for parity in his rematch with Jermain passing on $5 million, asked for parity to fight Floyd Mayweather, proposed parity to fight Oscar (GOD couldnt get parity in a fight with Oscar), and the list goes on and on. Although Winky has an excellent resume, he is sitting on the sideline for years at a time cause he clearly overprices himself in every situation. He isnt even a ranked top 20 P4P fighter anymore due to activity and he still wants parity in every fight. It just aint gonna happen.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
                    oh don't be silly! it should be 65-35 for paul williams. I mean why would paul make less money than someone that has fought a tito trinidad, a shane mosley, a fernando Vargas, an ike quarte, a jermain taylor, and a bernard hopkins? It's obvious paul is the draw here, and lets be honest with ourself even though none of the fighters i just mentioned never came close to even hurt winky paul the punisher would stop him in 7.
                    yeah of course dude has better resume but who has more exciting style of fighting and who has been inactive since 2007.

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                    • Tha_Greatest
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by BoxingScribe
                      Ok, another argument that goes in the toilet. Williams is about to have his 4th fight this year. Williams had 1 fight last year with Margarito. In 06 he had 4 fights. He had 3 fights in 05. 4 fights in 04. Now lets look at Margarito. Margarito had 2 fights in 08. 2 fights in 07. 2 fights in 06. 2 fights in 05. 2 fights in 04. 2 fights in 3. See a pattern here? While Williams averages 4 fights a year, Margarito fights half as much.

                      Your argument is now moot and only applies to Margarito.
                      that makes your argument moot and toilet wrong as well cause, as it clearly shows, Williams is fighting nonames not because hes feared, its because Tutor doesnt have a stable to give Williams a grat fight without negotiating with other promoters, Williams has to fight 4 unknowns a year to to barely keep Williams name barely noticable, if he doesnt, people will forget Paul

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