David Haye Destroys Monte Barrett, Knocks Him Out

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  • Ben_London
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    #161
    Originally posted by .Mik.
    I think that some myths need to be put to rights here:

    1). The fight was boring.

    5 knockdowns in 5 rounds? WRONG! It may not have been a classic encounter, but it was two heavyweights engaging in battle. No plodding, no clinching, all punching.

    2). Biased ref.

    He left a rattled Barrett get off the floor 4 times and could've quite reasonably stopped it a couple of times before then. Barrett was warned for punching around the BACK of the head, Haye punched to the side. The first time Haye hit the floor was a slip and a push cos he was off balance due to his ******ly wide stance as usual. The second time its too hard to tell, nothing significantly landed off Barrett, it could've been a flash knockdown, Haye is certainly prone to them. However, hitting him clean while his arse was on the canvas could've reasonably been a DQ. So the point deduction is about right.

    3). Haye has no chin.

    Inconclusive. He wasnt hurt in this fight. He's still only been knocked down legitimately twice, once by Thompson when he has utterly exhausted himself and one by Mormeck when he didnt actually hit the floor and blatantly slipped on the ring-trim. Thats not to say that any of them werent legitimate knockdowns, nor is it to say that Haye has no chin...but it simply hasnt been proven one way or the other. Not to mention that Haye himself uses it as a selling point, it makes for exciting fights...so what is the point trying to be critical about it?

    4). Haye would get destroyed by both Klits and his fans are dreamers.

    Incorrect, Haye's fans (like myself) are more realistic than most Klit fans. Haye is quite likely to get knocked out by both, we all know this. If I had to bet money, thats the eventuality I'd bet on. However, Haye DOES have the tools to beat both fighters perhaps moreso than any other heavyweight fighter. Wlad's weakness is his chin and his workrate. Haye has the speed and the power to expose those weaknesses. Vitali has got slower, Haye could expose that too. I'm not saying that he WILL. But acting like its an impossibility is being more unrealistic than saying that Haye might well do that. Moreso, its being ignorant of the flaws that Klits have shown in the past.

    5). Haye will hide behind fringe contenders now.

    He called out both Klits, to their faces. He's unified his division within his first 20 fights. His first fight at heavyweight is arguably against stronger competition that Wlad's next title defense. Haye has done nothing in his career to suggest that he's going to go for the easy career path that so many other fighters have. Assuming that he will is nothing other than ignorance of the facts of his career so far.

    Haye may get knocked out by any of the top 50 heavyweights in the division, that is certainly possible. But its not unlikely that he could knock all 50 of them out either. He has pace, power, willingness to make big fights and his is exciting. Those are not things that can be said easily about the heavyweight division over the past 5 years.
    Guys, this is an example of one of the rare intelligent posts on these forums, a guy who know what he is talking about, take note.

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    • Chr0nic
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      #162
      how can you all be so sure haye has no chin?

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      • xAUGUSTUSx
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        #163
        Originally posted by .Mik.
        I think that some myths need to be put to rights here:

        1). The fight was boring.

        5 knockdowns in 5 rounds? WRONG! It may not have been a classic encounter, but it was two heavyweights engaging in battle. No plodding, no clinching, all punching.

        2). Biased ref.

        He left a rattled Barrett get off the floor 4 times and could've quite reasonably stopped it a couple of times before then. Barrett was warned for punching around the BACK of the head, Haye punched to the side. The first time Haye hit the floor was a slip and a push cos he was off balance due to his ******ly wide stance as usual. The second time its too hard to tell, nothing significantly landed off Barrett, it could've been a flash knockdown, Haye is certainly prone to them. However, hitting him clean while his arse was on the canvas could've reasonably been a DQ. So the point deduction is about right.

        3). Haye has no chin.

        Inconclusive. He wasnt hurt in this fight. He's still only been knocked down legitimately twice, once by Thompson when he has utterly exhausted himself and one by Mormeck when he didnt actually hit the floor and blatantly slipped on the ring-trim. Thats not to say that any of them werent legitimate knockdowns, nor is it to say that Haye has no chin...but it simply hasnt been proven one way or the other. Not to mention that Haye himself uses it as a selling point, it makes for exciting fights...so what is the point trying to be critical about it?

        4). Haye would get destroyed by both Klits and his fans are dreamers.

        Incorrect, Haye's fans (like myself) are more realistic than most Klit fans. Haye is quite likely to get knocked out by both, we all know this. If I had to bet money, thats the eventuality I'd bet on. However, Haye DOES have the tools to beat both fighters perhaps moreso than any other heavyweight fighter. Wlad's weakness is his chin and his workrate. Haye has the speed and the power to expose those weaknesses. Vitali has got slower, Haye could expose that too. I'm not saying that he WILL. But acting like its an impossibility is being more unrealistic than saying that Haye might well do that. Moreso, its being ignorant of the flaws that Klits have shown in the past.

        5). Haye will hide behind fringe contenders now.

        He called out both Klits, to their faces. He's unified his division within his first 20 fights. His first fight at heavyweight is arguably against stronger competition that Wlad's next title defense. Haye has done nothing in his career to suggest that he's going to go for the easy career path that so many other fighters have. Assuming that he will is nothing other than ignorance of the facts of his career so far.

        Haye may get knocked out by any of the top 50 heavyweights in the division, that is certainly possible. But its not unlikely that he could knock all 50 of them out either. He has pace, power, willingness to make big fights and his is exciting. Those are not things that can be said easily about the heavyweight division over the past 5 years.
        1. Not boring because Monte kept coming.

        2. Biased ref - Of course he was biased. The fight was being Promoted by Haye and was in the O2 Arena so don't act dumb. I'm not saying it changes anything Monte was going to lose anyway. Thats why Haye picked him.

        3. No no no He does'nt have that good of a chin. He does'nt want to be touched for a reason. He can't fight inside for a reason. He's an imposter not a fighter. He's a very athletic actor who learned how to punch and watched alot of prime Roy Jones. He was hurt in the fight when barrett landed that flush Left hand and Haye hit the floor. Maybe it was to hard for you to see but I seen it clear as day. Haye was rocked bad and got all the time in the world to recover. If he was'nt hurt why did he go to a knee twice after hiiting the floor? If it was a slip what did he take a knee for? You could clearly see he was rocked. Sometimes love works in funny ways and you sometimes shadow or block the truth from you're mind.

        4. I'll agree with you there, he does have a chance. A punchers chance.

        5. The fact that He fought Barrett and goes straight to a title shot tells you something. He talked up the Klitschko's so much because he knew the media would carry him straight to a title shot. You can't believe that BS about all the other Heavyweights turned him down. They picked Barrett for a reason.

        You're obviously madly in love with David Haye. Sometimes Love will screw you up inside and keep you blind for years. You have to understand he has no feelings for you. To David you're just a groupie ho that gives him money. Hopefully you'll eventually get over it and start to realize the truth.

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        • BrooklynBomber
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          #164
          I dont know why you so hot about him, the guy clearly can't box.
          And I mean, really, all he does there is pretened to be a boxer, but his movement lacks the actual right intent.
          He cant deal with a jab, he cant put up a decent combo, cant fight going backward, does not look for angles.

          He is lucky he did not need any of it against Barrett.

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          • xAUGUSTUSx
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            #165
            Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
            I dont know why you so hot about him, the guy clearly can't box.
            And I mean, really, all he does there is pretened to be a boxer, but his movement lacks the actual right intent.
            He cant deal with a jab, he cant put up a decent combo, cant fight going backward, does not look for angles.

            He is lucky he did not need any of it against Barrett.
            An imposter not a fighter.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #166
              Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
              I dont know why you so hot about him, the guy clearly can't box.
              And I mean, really, all he does there is pretened to be a boxer, but his movement lacks the actual right intent.
              He cant deal with a jab, he cant put up a decent combo, cant fight going backward, does not look for angles.

              He is lucky he did not need any of it against Barrett.
              This is the most glaring thing to me. GLARING.

              I like Haye and I want to see him succeed but his flaws means he's gonna get killed one day. Either way, I'm not complaining. He's going to bring some excitement to the division and at least one memorable KO. Who goes down is the question.

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                #167
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                This is the most glaring thing to me. GLARING.

                I like Haye and I want to see him succeed but his flaws means he's gonna get killed one day. Either way, I'm not complaining. He's going to bring some excitement to the division and at least one memorable KO. Who goes down is the question.
                I was quite impressed with Haye, but I do have to agree here to some extent. There was a couple of times where I was screaming at the screen in the bar, damn well jab David.

                He got caught once coming in low and acknowledged it to Monte. He needs to tighten up on flaws like that because Wlad, certainly Vitali would capitalise more.

                Hayes clearly a force at HW though, it's odd how people struggle to accept it. He's the unified CW champion, is already a big CW and guy so hasn't really need to put loads of weight on. He's bigger than Holyfield.

                I think he'd have a damn good shot against Wlad right now, but is too in experienced, with too many flaws for Vitali.

                Behind him all the way though, the HW division needs this big time, whatever happens.

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                • BrooklynBomber
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                  #168
                  This is what I am talking about
                  Watch that every time he is getting caught with a jab his right hand is somewhere down.
                  He just does not realize that any more schooled fighter then Barrett would just follow with a straight down the pipe.





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                  • BrooklynBomber
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                    #169
                    If Haye plans on to fighting like this, he at least should consult Joe calzaghe on how to move in and out.

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                    • .Mik.
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx
                      1. Not boring because Monte kept coming.

                      2. Biased ref - Of course he was biased. The fight was being Promoted by Haye and was in the O2 Arena so don't act dumb. I'm not saying it changes anything Monte was going to lose anyway. Thats why Haye picked him.

                      3. No no no He does'nt have that good of a chin. He does'nt want to be touched for a reason. He can't fight inside for a reason. He's an imposter not a fighter. He's a very athletic actor who learned how to punch and watched alot of prime Roy Jones. He was hurt in the fight when barrett landed that flush Left hand and Haye hit the floor. Maybe it was to hard for you to see but I seen it clear as day. Haye was rocked bad and got all the time in the world to recover. If he was'nt hurt why did he go to a knee twice after hiiting the floor? If it was a slip what did he take a knee for? You could clearly see he was rocked. Sometimes love works in funny ways and you sometimes shadow or block the truth from you're mind.

                      4. I'll agree with you there, he does have a chance. A punchers chance.

                      5. The fact that He fought Barrett and goes straight to a title shot tells you something. He talked up the Klitschko's so much because he knew the media would carry him straight to a title shot. You can't believe that BS about all the other Heavyweights turned him down. They picked Barrett for a reason.

                      You're obviously madly in love with David Haye. Sometimes Love will screw you up inside and keep you blind for years. You have to understand he has no feelings for you. To David you're just a groupie ho that gives him money. Hopefully you'll eventually get over it and start to realize the truth.
                      And yet again a rational and intelligent poster is put off having reasonable debate in the NSB forum by having been responded to be a moron. People like you stunt this forum, you represent why most people think that this place is a joke and dont bother coming in.

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